Highest speed for a speed awareness course

Mark_Mark

PeacefulWaters wrote: »

Are you saying I'm lying?

No, I'm saying you signed a TOR and may end up in court.

PeacefulWaters

Mark_Mark wrote: »

No, I'm saying you signed a TOR and may end up in court.

Why would I end up in court when they've offered me a speed awareness course (which I've booked)?

I don't understand your point.

Aretnap

timbo58 wrote: »

eh? I'm quite sure that if the police cannot state the speed you were going and have that recorded on some manner of equipment then it matters not whether they *think* you were exceeding 70mph as surely they cannot prove it?

Therefore what the heck are they doing wasting money reporting for prosecuting?

It's only necessary to prove that you were exceeding the limit. There's no need to prove an exact speed, or even to use any equipment at all. It's not particularly common, but you can be convicted solely on the opinion of two witnesses that you were speeding, as in the case of Mark Graham - http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2003/120.html Alternatively, if a police officer were driving at a steady 70mph and you overtook him that would be clear evidence that you were exceeding the limit, without any need to prove that you were doing, say, 81 as opposed to 80.

phill99

Barrack room lawyers. Don't you just love 'em.

Hintza

phill99 wrote: »

Barrack room lawyers. Don't you just love 'em.

Aye and this one is supposedly a newbie or more likely an alter ego after a previous PPR! Been stirring it up on other boards too.

PeacefulWaters

Mark_Mark wrote: »

No, I'm saying you signed a TOR and may end up in court.

I take it you'e not going to explain then.

Shame.

So this is possibly the luckiest speed awareness course ever. Fair enough.

Archi_Bald

Thank your lucky stars and go to that awareness course. Don't tell anyone else about it - there may be jobsworths who will report you straight away.

The awareness course will hopefully make you realise how incredibly stupid it is to break the speed limits. They are there for a reason. I have been on one of these courses recently (doing 32 in a 30 zone) and must say it was a morning very well spent.

OnanTheBarbarian

Archi_Bald wrote: »

Thank your lucky stars and go to that awareness course. Don't tell anyone else about it - there may be jobsworths who will report you straight away.

The awareness course will hopefully make you realise how incredibly stupid it is to break the speed limits. They are there for a reason. I have been on one of these courses recently (doing 32 in a 30 zone) and must say it was a morning very well spent.

Having been on one myself (for 36 in a 30) and would agree it changed how I drove in a residential area etc, but as for motorways, I will frankly always speed as 70 is pretty lame and I would me more likely to have a smack through not paying enough attention, compared to the focus I have if I'm doing 80+ and keeping an eye out for helmets changing lanes in front of me etc.

PeacefulWaters

Course done and dusted. Case closed.

Still feel like I've been very, very lucky and should have been grovelling to a magistrate.