Highest speed for a speed awareness course

Aretnap

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Mark_Mark

PeacefulWaters wrote: »

Why do you think I don't have an option when I've posted twice that I have a letter giving me that option?

Because of this.

PeacefulWaters wrote: »

The policeman wrote "98-100mph" on the ticket he asked me to sign.

The letter makes no reference to the actual speed.

phill99

The speed awareness course is offered as the policeman is offering a range is speeds at which the OP was driving I'd 98- 100 mph.

Therefore his offence will be 'driving in excess of the speed limit' ie 70mph. The policeman can't confirm the speed at which the OP was clocked at.

He isn't being prosecuted for a specific speed, which at 100, normally gets a ban and no option if a speed awareness course.

Mark_Mark

phill99 wrote: »

The speed awareness course is offered as the policeman is offering a range is speeds at which the OP was driving I'd 98- 100 mph.

Therefore his offence will be 'driving in excess of the speed limit' ie 70mph. That's the same even if a speed is recorded. The policeman can't confirm the speed at which the OP was clocked at. In that case if the can't confirm a speed they can't do anything. But in this case they have 98-100 which is in excess of the limit.

He isn't being prosecuted for a specific speed, You never are, its always exceeding the limit which at 100, normally gets a ban and no option if a speed awareness course.

I don't know what you're trying to say there.

brat

The max for a speed awareness is +10% plus 9mph. Those rules are non negotiable, so I can only imagine the ticket office has misread the officer's TOR (Traffic Offence Report). 98 to 100 would be outside the range for being dealt with by the central ticket office, so the officer should not have submitted a TOR, instead should have reported you for summons at the roadside.
At that speed, a TOR would be referred back to the officer to put a file in for summons. It would probably still be able to be dealt with via correspondence, depending on your driving record.

Mark_Mark

brat wrote: »

The max for a speed awareness is +10% plus 9mph. Those rules are non negotiable, so I can only imagine the ticket office has misread the officer's TOR (Traffic Offence Report). 98 to 100 would be outside the range for being dealt with by the central ticket office, so the officer should not have submitted a TOR, instead should have reported you for summons at the roadside.
At that speed, a TOR would be referred back to the officer to put a file in for summons. It would probably still be able to be dealt with via correspondence, depending on your driving record.

It doesn't work like that nationally thought. Some forces submit TORs for everything, even for summons. The file is then only done on a not guilty plea.

PeacefulWaters

Mark_Mark wrote: »

Because of this.

Are you saying I'm lying?

timbo58

eh? I'm quite sure that if the police cannot state the speed you were going and have that recorded on some manner of equipment then it matters not whether they *think* you were exceeding 70mph as surely they cannot prove it?

Therefore what the heck are they doing wasting money reporting for prosecuting?

brat

Mark_Mark wrote: »

It doesn't work like that nationally thought. Some forces submit TORs for everything, even for summons. The file is then only done on a not guilty plea.

You may well be right. It works the way I stated for my force.

Mark_Mark

timbo58 wrote: »

eh? I'm quite sure that if the police cannot state the speed you were going and have that recorded on some manner of equipment then it matters not whether they *think* you were exceeding 70mph as surely they cannot prove it?

Therefore what the heck are they doing wasting money reporting for prosecuting?

98-100 is enough to prove the offence.