Currently on JSA & mortgage help - do I lose it if I get married?

Poppie68

Your in the same position as myself at one time he worked 400 miles from home and had a tenancy agreement for a flat near his place of work...i was unable to claim any means tested benefits as he came home at weekends (not all though) we were classed as still being in the same houshold, to me though it makes sense as we are married and he was only away for work...the same as you have stated...you said she was only staying at her home during the week as it's nearer to work and you are together at the weekend at the very least.

nannytone_2

i would see you as the same househild.
you are CHOOSIing to live apart.
benefits should not be funding choice but necessities

frugalstephen

nannytone wrote: »

i would see you as the same househild.
you are CHOOSIing to live apart.
benefits should not be funding choice but necessities

Spoken in a tone that truly reflects your name! Just brilliant... LOL

nannytone_2

so if a millionaires wife decides she wants her own 'space'
she should get benefits brecause she chooses not to live with her millionaire husband?

princessdon

frugalstephen wrote: »

Spoken in a tone that truly reflects your name! Just brilliant... LOL

Tone aside they are correct. They look at what constitutes a household.

Eg a married couple who separate and will file for divorce and live separate lives. They no longer see themselves as a couple, maybe even date new partners. Have no connections, don't spend couple time together, don't eat together, don't shop together, don't spend holidays together are likely treat as 2 households.

Then you have a happily married couple, one of which works and lives away for work reasons (like my household does). We are a couple, family and friends see us as a couple, we have a relationship of a couple, we spend weekends and holidays as a couple, we eat at weekends as a couple etc. we are a couple albeit living apart during the week.

There is no certain answer, they share a household as a couple for at least part of the week (3 nights I'd guess minimum) and during those nights are a couple who are married.

No one can second guess the DM but I'd be highly surprised if they allowed a single claim if nearly half the week they share a household and do couple activities.

frugalstephen

nannytone wrote: »

so if a millionaires wife decides she wants her own 'space'
she should get benefits brecause she chooses not to live with her millionaire husband?

A very strange attempt at an analogy, but here goes:

1. Financially, she'd be much better off getting a divorce. Even if the settlement wasn't 50/50, it would still be more lucrative than JSA £70/week
2. Being married to a millionaire, she'd have been awfully naive at not hiving off some of her own means over her years in marriage.
3. I'm sure her millionaire husband would gladly offer her more than £70/week maintenance just to keep his name out of the papers.
4. If she wanted her own 'space' because he was being cruel to her & beat her up, then I would whole hardheartedly support her benefit claim to protect her well-being.

I've no idea what I've done to offend you, but I've been working for over 30 years & due to unfortunate circumstances, now find myself claiming JSA. I have no expertise whatsoever on 'claims' culture & I simply came onto this forum to get what I thought would be some knowledgeable advice.

princessdon

frugalstephen wrote: »

A very strange attempt at an analogy, but here goes:

1. Financially, she'd be much better off getting a divorce. Even if the settlement wasn't 50/50, it would still be more lucrative than JSA £70/week
2. Being married to a millionaire, she'd have been awfully naive at not hiving off some of her own means over her years in marriage.
3. I'm sure her millionaire husband would gladly offer her more than £70/week maintenance just to keep his name out of the papers.
4. If she wanted her own 'space' because he was being cruel to her & beat her up, then I would whole hardheartedly support her benefit claim to protect her well-being.

I've no idea what I've done to offend you, but I've been working for over 30 years & due to unfortunate circumstances, now find myself claiming JSA. I have no expertise whatsoever on 'claims' culture & I simply came onto this forum to get what I thought would be some knowledgeable advice.

And the advice is that it's individual. Technically they cease when married.

If you want a SDM to reassess this due to individual unique circumstances then only they can do this knowing full details.

Eg you marry someone overseas and they can't enter the country for 6 months, it's unfair to stop benefits as they cannot be together for 6 months (hence why mickey batch said if haven't lived and won't live together). Your circumstances are part of the week in own household and part with married partner.

Only they can make this "over ruling" based on your unique circumstances, no one can really help other than that as said technically they stop but you can apply to have that looked at by a SDM if you think it's not the correct decision.

FBaby

I simply came onto this forum to get what I thought would be some knowledgeable advice.

The the best knowledge you can gain from your thread is that there is no black and white answer to your question. If there was, people would take advantage of it, and make sure they tick the boxes to be seen as non couple, yet enjoying their lives as such whilst claiming for benefits.

My point of view is that it is easy to know if you are a couple with someone or not. If you see yourself as one, then you know you should claim as a couple.

nannytone_2

frugalstephen wrote: »

A very strange attempt at an analogy, but here goes:

1. Financially, she'd be much better off getting a divorce. Even if the settlement wasn't 50/50, it would still be more lucrative than JSA £70/week
2. Being married to a millionaire, she'd have been awfully naive at not hiving off some of her own means over her years in marriage.
3. I'm sure her millionaire husband would gladly offer her more than £70/week maintenance just to keep his name out of the papers.
4. If she wanted her own 'space' because he was being cruel to her & beat her up, then I would whole hardheartedly support her benefit claim to protect her well-being.

I've no idea what I've done to offend you, but I've been working for over 30 years & due to unfortunate circumstances, now find myself claiming JSA. I have no expertise whatsoever on 'claims' culture & I simply came onto this forum to get what I thought would be some knowledgeable advice.

who mentioned a divorce or cruelty?
maybe the millionaires wife is just like you.
choosing to get married but also choosing to live apart and claim benefit... merely spending weekends with her millionaire husband ...
the amount of mobey is irrelevant once its past £112 a week.
it could be modest or vould be millions

princessdon

SDM is a senior decision maker who looks at your case as an individual.

(Sorry I should have said).