Woman put her shopping behind my car and I crushed it by accident

nobbysn*ts

Aretnap wrote: »

He would in all probability get a NIP anyway, in spite of it not strictly being required. However he would have a defence to failure to stop as it doesn't meet the definition of a reportable accident - a bag of shopping being neither a mechanically propelled vehicle, an animal nor "property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land".

It's a bad of shopping on the floor. It's not part of the sky, it's not part of the sea, of course it's part of the land! And some tw*t drove over it.

Netwizard

neilmcl wrote: »

And you really expect other road users or pedestrians to know what you're doing, unbelievable!

I have eyes so make sure to reverse when the coast is clear of all cars and pedestrians. It can't be that big a deal as its not even covered by the MOT test

dacouch

Why you not reverse into the parking space

Ximian

dacouch wrote: »

Why you not reverse into the parking space

If he/she did reverse in the parking spot he/she would not have had the opportunity to reverse over the shopping. Maybe drive over it in a forward direction instead?

dacouch

Ximian wrote: »

If he/she did reverse in the parking spot he/she would not have had the opportunity to reverse over the shopping. Maybe drive over it in a forward direction instead?

Good job OP did not treat backing out of the parking space in the same way he treats yellow box junctions...

londonTiger wrote: »

on a side note. if you get stuck in a box. can you just move backwards and forward to keep moving to avoid a box junction penalty?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4396019

forgotmyname

Something else to keep a secret from your insurer?

Aretnap

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

It's a bad of shopping on the floor. It's not part of the sky, it's not part of the sea, of course it's part of the land! And some tw*t drove over it.

Nope. It's sitting on the land, but it's quite clearly not part of the land, nor is it constructed on it, fixed to it nor growing in it. Also, if it had been intended to apply to any type of property it would just say "property", or "property other than property owned by the driver". Perhaps the legislation should have been drafted differently to take into account a wider range of types of property... but it wasn't.

StrugglingApprentice

She who places shopping behind running car, returns to find crushed grapes.

News story for the daily mail, perhaps?

Ultrasonic

The Highway Code has the following to say about hazard warning lights (rule 116):

Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.

I must admit I didn't know you weren't supposed to use them apart from on motorways and unrestricted dual carriageways, and I'm sure I've broken this particular rule in the past.

That said, I'm afraid I would have a bit of a chuckle to myself at someone who felt the need to put them on to reverese out of a parking space.

thenudeone

###THIS IS NOT A REPORTABLE ACCIDENT###

I have already given the link but I will spell it out 'cos many posters seems to have missed it.

Road Traffic Act 1988

170 Duty of driver to stop, report accident and give information or documents.

(1)This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a [mechanically propelled vehicle] on a road [or other public place], an accident occurs by which—
(a)personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that [mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(b)damage is caused—
(i)to a vehicle other than that [mechanically propelled vehicle] or a trailer drawn by that [mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(ii)to an animal other than an animal in or on that [mechanically propelled vehicle] or a trailer drawn by that [mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(iii)to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road [or place] in question is situated or land adjacent to such land.

(2)The driver of the [mechanically propelled vehicle] must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address and also the name and address of the owner and the identification marks of the vehicle.
etc..

There is no injury to people or animals and no damage to roadside property or to another vehicle = NOT A REPORTABLE ACCIDENT.

There is no obligation to stop, give name and address or insurance details or report it to police.