Smoking in Cars Carrying Children

fivetide

qetu1357 wrote: »

You may think I am being agressive - but this is a forum where you state opinions that can be challenged.

Challenge away but when you use language like "what rational person...." that's aggressive.

Also, when you fail to understand the point after several explanations and then come back with aggression then there is no point contunuing the deabte.

However, last chance, from your own link - "not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer"

Quite right - my issue is with those who do smoke getting it and it being classed as 'smoking related' when it might have been nothing to do with that at all.

qetu1357

fivetide wrote: »

Challenge away but when you use language like "what rational person...." that's aggressive.

Also, when you fail to understand the point after several explanations and then come back with aggression then there is no point contunuing the deabte.

However, last chance, from your own link - "not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer"

Quite right - my issue is with those who do smoke getting it and it being classed as 'smoking related' when it might have been nothing to do with that at all.

But my point is that no-one rational would say that everyone who gets cancer, and smokes, has got cancer because they smoke.

Coroners don't think like that. Cancer Research UK don't think that.

Bantex_2

Hintza wrote: »

Do you have children?

I would have that that he/she obviously has.

andygb

Nile wrote: »

My parents were morons.


I vividly remember my childhood, my parents were smokers. The excitement of a very long car journey to London was turned into a nightmare because my parents smoked in the car. The car didn't have rear doors or rear windows, so I was trapped in the back with no way of escaping the choking smoke. It was terrible, I was trapped in this nightmare.


I pleaded (yes pleaded) with my parents not to light up another cigarette but to no avail.


As a youngster I suffered middle ear infections, some of the worst pain I've ever experienced. Even now (decades later) every common cold I get develops into bronchitis.


I do not smoke and will do everything to avoid walking behind a smoker on the pavements.


Nanny state or not, I am firmly in support of a ban of smoking in a car with children present. Children need protecting from adult morons.:(

:beer:
Well said, it sounds as if you had the same experience as me when you were a child.
I still get bronchitis, but fortunately the constant headaches and nosebleeds which I used to suffer from are now a thing of the past. Interestingly enough, I also used to suffer from really painful ear infections, and needed regular trips to the doctor for syringing:eek:
What some people do not understand, is that we are not doing this out of spite towards the smokers, but out of a desire to stop the children suffering abuse.

Jamie_Carter

Ebe_Scrooge wrote: »

I think the point is that if we are talking about introducing a law to ban smoking in cars, in order to protect children, then it's just as valid to introduce a law to stop parents feeding their kids rubbish - both are harmful to the kids.

The plan is to introduce a law to protect children from inhaling smoke whilst travelling in cars, not just to prevent people from smoking in cars full stop.

Hintza

Bantex wrote: »

I would have that that he/she obviously has.

I don't think she does!

Jamie_Carter

Horizon81 wrote: »

Yes just like in the house. So let's say a family of smokers spend 1 hour a day in a smoke filled car versus say 16 hours a day in a smoke filled house. The benefit of banning smoking in the car is negligible, not to mention nigh on impossible to police.

Do you drive a huge car with multiple rooms, or like most people do you drive one that only has a few cubic metres of air in it?


I'm sure your house contains far more than 16x the air than your car does.


How is it impossible to police?? A police officer sees someone smoking in a car containing children, and they allocate whatever penalty is decided. How is that impossible?

Hintza

andygb wrote: »

........ but out of a desire to stop the children suffering abuse.

Now, that is stretching it a bit.

kwmlondon

Hintza wrote: »

Do you have children?

Have you ever had a kid vomit on the back of your neck in a hot car on the motorway with no remote control windows?

Hintza

kwmlondon wrote: »

Have you ever had a kid vomit on the back of your neck in a hot car on the motorway with no remote control windows?

I'll take that as no then.