Smoking in Cars Carrying Children

Ebe_Scrooge

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Any deliberate act that can cause serious damage to a childs health should be illegal. We are supposed to protect our children from harm, not deliberately subject them to it.

Agreed. Just the other week I was in the supermarket, saw this little lad, maybe 5 or 6 years old, he was enormous - I mean really fat, not just a bit chubby. With him were ( I assume ) his parents, both of whom were obese. What chance has the poor little mite got, it's not his fault at that age. Some people really don't deserve to have kids.

Bantex_2

What if the children want to smoke in the back of the car? Do they not have a human right to do so?

Horizon81

Jamie - you say any deliberate act that can cause serious damage to a childs health should be illegal. Easy to say in theory, impossible in practice. You'd have to ban smoking in the home, limit junk food etc. This is just an attention grabbing story. If a parent is too thick to be a proper parent then why invent laws to band aid round their stupidity. The easiest option is to just stop them breeding in the first place. Doh! Back to Godwin's Law!

Bantex_2

I would suspect that fat kid referred to earlier is in for a much more miserable life than the child whose parents smoke in their car.

Nile

tony6403 wrote: »

Only a complete moron would light up a fag in a car when children present.
I am astonished that this practice should require a "plan" by the politicians before banning it and that the Government thinks that public information campaigns are preferable.
How stupid can people be?

My parents were morons.


I vividly remember my childhood, my parents were smokers. The excitement of a very long car journey to London was turned into a nightmare because my parents smoked in the car. The car didn't have rear doors or rear windows, so I was trapped in the back with no way of escaping the choking smoke. It was terrible, I was trapped in this nightmare.


I pleaded (yes pleaded) with my parents not to light up another cigarette but to no avail.


As a youngster I suffered middle ear infections, some of the worst pain I've ever experienced. Even now (decades later) every common cold I get develops into bronchitis.


I do not smoke and will do everything to avoid walking behind a smoker on the pavements.


Nanny state or not, I am firmly in support of a ban of smoking in a car with children present. Children need protecting from adult morons.:(

kwmlondon

Horizon81 wrote: »

No, you get a hold of yourself! As I said, the nanny state could intervene in all aspects of our life. You can't go to McDonalds without seeing some mother feeding fries one at a time into her baby's mouth. Should we introduce fast food bans for anyone with a pushchair? So imagine smoking in cars is banned. What next? Labour gestapo extend it to your own home with random spot checks to ensure you aren't lighting up in your own living room. It makes no sense and isn't going to save anyone if parents can still do whatever they want in their own home, which accounts for the majority of the time vis a vis being in a car.

Oh get real. People said the same thing when seatbelts were brought in.

"It's the thin end of the wedge, where will it end?"

When the smoking in public places ban was brought in it was a curtailment of our rights that would lead to an Orwellian state.

It hasn't.

We were choc full of CCTV cameras before the smoking ban came in, we are all being monitored by the security services in the UK and USA right now and blethering on about people's right to poison their own kids is not really part of the debate.

The fact is that people are stupid and you need laws to stop them doing stupid things.

Stop panicking about something that has no chance of becoming law like people being allowed to eat chips, and focus on the reality of idiots who will not listen to sense gassing their kids.

Honestly, do you want kids to die of cancer?

qetu1357

paddedjohn wrote: »

I agree that its not a good idea to smoke infront of children but im sick to the back teeth of politicians poking their noses in peoples lives and telling how they must live. Im not saying there is any link but pensioners are now living longer than any generation before them and they wernt protected from the affects of tobacco smoke.
Just for the record im a non smoker.

Indeed smokers live longer than non-smokers used to so therefore smoking is good for you.

What smilie do I use for sarcasm?

Bantex_2

kwmlondon wrote: »

Honestly, do you want kids to die of cancer?

What would you prefer they died of?

Horizon81

kwmlondon, you're missing the point, just like the typical Labour voter. It's already been pointed out on this thread that diet plays just as much, if not more, part in a child's health than a bit of second hand smoke in a car, or what you refer to as 'gassing children'. This is nothing more than Labour and Lib Dems trying to give Tories a bloody nose. Nanny state sheep lap it up and just think yeah of course I dont want kids to get cancer so this must be a great idea.

I agree with you that people are indeed stupid (all of us are in different respects) but you really shouldn't need laws to police issues such as this. You're essentially using the government to make up for parental inadequacies which is no way to run a country.

qetu1357

Bantex wrote: »

What would you prefer they died of?

Old age??????