Popla gives more guidance to operators

The_Slithy_Tove

Stroma wrote: »

So here lies the case that popla is giving guidance on how operators can win their case, yet again the 'independent' popla is aiding and abetting the parking industry!

Where is the guidance to the motorists ?

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/popla-lead-adjudicator-publishes-new.html

Do we know what they have said in their hidden link? In the interests of transparency and fairness, it is only right that POPLA's guidance is available to all parties. How can they possibly justify their alleged "independence" otherwise? Or is it that they are as utterly corrupt as all PPCs, the BPA Ltd and, of course, the DVLA?

At least we can take pleasure that POPLA have adopted the acronym GPEOL first used here (or was it Pepipoo?)

Hot_Bring

Bantex wrote: »

Surely if everybody just parked within the stated rules and didn't overstay, use disabled bays, etc etc, most of these companies would go out of business.

Would that not be the best form of attack.

I did and STILL got two charges from G24 - moral and upstanding companies these PPCs are not. I think your confusing this with council issued tickets where they have very strict rules for enforcement ( although even they don't always play by the rules ).

Bantex_2

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

I would hope that you are being sarcastic, but I fear you really believe what you said.

It is perfectly clear that PPCs deliberately entrap motorists to break their petty rules, and that the lie and cheat all the time.

How do they entrap people to break the rules, and is this a majority of cases and just a small minority?
I truly believe that these companies stay in business due in a large part to drivers being either careless or just lazy.
I read the signs, stick to the "petty" rules and have never got a ticket.
Why do others have such a lot of problems?

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Do we know what they have said in their hidden link? In the interests of transparency and fairness, it is only right that POPLA's guidance is available to all parties. How can they possibly justify their alleged "independence" otherwise? Or is it that they are as utterly corrupt as all PPCs, the BPA Ltd and, of course, the DVLA?

At least we can take pleasure that POPLA have adopted the acronym GPEOL first used here (or was it Pepipoo?)

Its the popla appeal which ive seen and basically de constructs parking eyes response to gpeol, but in a way which explains what they can and cannot include.

Staff costs were mentioned, but this can easily be rebutted I think

android26

bod1467 wrote: »

What is life like on your utopian planet? The one where parking companies have ethics and morals? (They certainly don't here in the real world).

The Utopian planet where no one ever has a puncture or flat battery when they try to leave a car park. Where shops would rather you walk away from the till queue and return to your car rather than hand them lots of cash for their overpriced tat. Where children didn't get ill nor the elderly a little slower.... Where everything goes just how you planned it.

The planet Sanctimonia I believe it's called.

:beer:

android26

Bantex wrote: »

... careless or just lazy.
I read the signs, stick to the "petty" rules and have never got a ticket.
Why do others have such a lot of problems?

Congratulations!

Others may have more important things on their minds, like dying family members in a hospital, where these parasites prey.
Personally I have a clean licence and never had a real parking ticket. However I have had a scam one for overstaying in a retail park. I never had a clue I overstayed, so yes, it is easy to do without any pre-meditation.

Perhaps you should think about writing a book on how to live the perfect life. I'm sure it would be a best seller. :A

Bantex_2

android26 wrote: »

The Utopian planet where no one ever has a puncture or flat battery when they try to leave a car park. Where shops would rather you walk away from the till queue and return to your car rather than hand them lots of cash for their overpriced tat. Where children didn't get ill nor the elderly a little slower.... Where everything goes just how you planned it.

The planet Sanctimonia I believe it's called.

:beer:

Apart from mechanical breakdown, all the above would not be a problem if one just allowed an extra fifteen minutes.

Does seem that some would rather get the ticket and spend a load of time a effort fighting it, rather than not give the parking company the opportunity in the first place.

Browntoa

Or in my local aldi for example , camera clocks you as you come in so "parking" time they claim starts then. It often takes 15 minutes to park and then 10 minutes to get through the checkout . This leaves you 30 minutes tops to do your shopping. Today for example it took me 10 minutes to reverse out of a car parking space as the car park was gridlocked

If there system was right then it should take account of this but it's a pure time out minus time in equation

It's there to catch you out

peter_the_piper

Don't forget the 3 hour limit that council allowed when planning went through which suddenly, without permission, became 90mins.
The camera enforced sites where the signs say 90 mins PARKING but give you a ticket for parking 90 mins but it was so busy that it took 10 mins to get in and out. There are loads of these sneaky ploys used to trap the unwary.
ps never (yet) had a parking ticket or speeding in only 55years driving but that does not stop me wanting to help those that have been caught.

martmonk

Bantex wrote: »

Apart from mechanical breakdown, all the above would not be a problem if one just allowed an extra fifteen minutes.

Does seem that some would rather get the ticket and spend a load of time a effort fighting it, rather than not give the parking company the opportunity in the first place.

With respect I don't think you actually understand the issues.

Read some of the original posts we see on here daily.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'allow an extra 15 minutes'? The 'victim' can't do that. If any parking company and their client have these 'petty' rules where you can stay in the car park for 90 minutes and it takes old Mrs Gibbons 95 minutes, she gets a ticket.

Even if you think that's OK then the next issue is one of
proportionality - is a charge of £100 justified for the 'offence' of overstaying in a free car park for 5 minutes?