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[ARCHIVE] Popla Decisions

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  • Redx wrote: »
    read post #548

    It just goes to show the only really strong argument is losses to the landowner.

    I have to say I still remain a bit bewildered by it all and all the advice and really complicated appeals,

    A friend emailed me to say send this letter to them, it worked for her and she got advice in Aug 2013 from MSE. Admittedly it was Tesco's own car parking firm appeals but she didn't go direct to the store in person.


    Dear Sir/Madam

    I have returned from my vacation to find your invoice in respect of a charge notice Ref ******** for Vehicle ******

    Any debt of liability to your company is denied as the charge you seek is punitive penalty and in no way represents the actual losses incurred by the landowner

    Either cancel this charge forthwith or provide a POPLA code so that I may refer the matter to POPLA

    Yours faithfully
    The most wasted day is one in which we have not laughed.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,630 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    It just goes to show the only really strong argument is losses to the landowner.

    I have to say I still remain a bit bewildered by it all and all the advice and really complicated appeals,

    A friend emailed me to say send this letter to them, it worked for her and she got advice in Aug 2013 from MSE. Admittedly it was Tesco's own car parking firm appeals but she didn't go direct to the store in person.


    Dear Sir/Madam

    I have returned from my vacation to find your invoice in respect of a charge notice Ref ******** for Vehicle ******

    Any debt of liability to your company is denied as the charge you seek is punitive penalty and in no way represents the actual losses incurred by the landowner

    Either cancel this charge forthwith or provide a POPLA code so that I may refer the matter to POPLA

    Yours faithfully

    Good luck with that one!

    The absolute best I'd predict from that level of appeal to the PPC is a POPLA code. The likelihood would be a response stating that it wasn't an appeal and they need more information on which to make an appeal decision.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Well hers was dropped but as I said it was to Tesco's own appeals.

    Why are CPS getting successful court judgements? I've just been reading a few through and a lot of the arguments people put up on here seem to being thrown out by some District Judges.
    The most wasted day is one in which we have not laughed.
  • Why are CPS getting successful court judgements?

    Because county court small claims can be a bit of a lottery and PPCs are paying csolicitors £300 to represent them at court. Luckily most of this £300 is not awarded against you in costs if you lose.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Can you take this discussion off here, this is nothing to do with popla decisions - thanks
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Hope im not out of order posting here but if no GPEOL is so good a fight tool against them why do the PPCs still go through with paying for POPLA when in your first complain the the PPC you say you are argueing no GPEOL. Do any PPC drop it because of GPEOL at 1st complain.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    This is a Decisions thread, not a Discussion thread. Please let's take this elsewhere.
  • laststraw
    laststraw Posts: 16 Forumite
    edited 28 November 2013 at 3:45PM
    Indeed but I thought my post was 100% relevant and there were also similar relevant questions added by other seasoned members which lead me to believe it ok.I also read the fist page which outlines not asking for requests for advice which I wasnt.
    Please feel free to remove.
  • laststraw wrote: »
    Hope im not out of order posting here but if no GPEOL is so good a fight tool against them why do the PPCs still go through with paying for POPLA when in your first complain the the PPC you say you are argueing no GPEOL. Do any PPC drop it because of GPEOL at 1st complain.
    as stated, this is not the thread.

    but now you're here and the question was worth asking, would someone care to respond?
  • Woooo calm down!!!
    Look how it took shona time to get it right. No need to panic or cry wolf. Ok complain but no need for a witch hunt
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
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