Tenants redecorated

Trebor01

Can anyone advise if I take or rather ask for the desposit, if this is haded over in respect to decoration, am I still able to pursue any addtional damages (if they exceed the deposit) via a court, or must I give back the deposit and pursue the whole amount via the courts (if required).

DRP

19lottie82 wrote: »

I think a lot of people would take issue with it, but that doesn't mean the tenant can't do what they like when they are in the property, as long as they return it to the original condition when they leave.
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19lottie82 wrote: »

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However I think a lot of people, including yourself, are confusing moral guidelines and legal ones.

But there's also common sense to consider...

If a tenant did any of the things that Jim suggested, then I doubt any LL (even one who is entirely aware of the law) would just whistle and think "I'll wait until they move out before I worry about this", because common sense says that if they've ripped out a kitchen and put another one in, they are obviously not going to return things to the way they were...

19lottie82

DRP wrote: »

But there's also common sense to consider...

If a tenant did any of the things that Jim suggested, then I doubt any LL (even one who is entirely aware of the law) would just whistle and think "I'll wait until they move out before I worry about this", because common sense says that if they've ripped out a kitchen and put another one in, they are obviously not going to return things to the way they were...

Again, true. But my point is the Landlord can't do anything, until they don't return it back to the original state at the end of the tenancy.

Kayalana99

Trebor01 wrote: »

Can anyone advise if I take or rather ask for the desposit, if this is haded over in respect to decoration, am I still able to pursue any addtional damages (if they exceed the deposit) via a court, or must I give back the deposit and pursue the whole amount via the courts (if required).

Wait for proper advice, but I'd me making a very reasonable list of what money you want for doing what to get it back to how you had it before and totting it up - then you'd need to send them a letter before action before going to court.

Id be very wary of p!ssing them off untill you have their forwarding address to pursue them.

princeofpounds

But my point is the Landlord can't do anything, until they don't return it back to the original state at the end of the tenancy.

There are grounds in Section 8 that can be used to end the tenancy early, which could apply if a tenant went on a crazy and unauthorised renovation binge. But the contract would have to be written the right way and the problem would have to be severe. Plus damages would only be awarded around the termination of the tenancy, it would just be made earlier.

yorkshire_terrier_owner

There is a legal term commonly used called 'standard of the reasonable man'. This applies to criminal law rather than property law but it's something I frequently use when thinking about situations like this.

All issues about tenants feeling at home etc etc are irrelevant.

The question is:

Would the reasonable man rip up carpets, channel walls and redecorate a rental property without the consent of the landlord?

No.

keyser666

thesaint wrote: »

Use proper words, and I will address you.

You should look at your own grammar before pulling someone else up.

Blackpool_Saver

yorkshire_terrier_owner wrote: »

There is a legal term commonly used called 'standard of the reasonable man'. This applies to criminal law rather than property law but it's something I frequently use when thinking about situations like this.

All issues about tenants feeling at home etc etc are irrelevant.

The question is:

Would the reasonable man rip up carpets, channel walls and redecorate a rental property without the consent of the landlord?

No.

That would depend, some rental properties have walls and floors that need neutralising. Just because somebody OWNS a house it does not automatically mean they have good taste OR a good grasp of grammar ;-)

Halle71

CharlieRabbit01 wrote: »

So you did say that. Apologies it was the shock of 2k on redecorating that got me. I'm hoping to do my 2bed flat for a lot less.

Your colour is still not me but I like white which I know a lot of people don't.

My place is already white but its looking tiered and skirtings yellowing so going to ask if we can spruce it back up.

I like and have had all white, but in our Edwardian house with it's imperfect plaster, a darker colour looks better and warmer. And it makes our whites look whiter

Trebor01

yorkshire_terrier_owner wrote: »

There is a legal term commonly used called 'standard of the reasonable man'. This applies to criminal law rather than property law but it's something I frequently use when thinking about situations like this.

All issues about tenants feeling at home etc etc are irrelevant.

The question is:

Would the reasonable man rip up carpets, channel walls and redecorate a rental property without the consent of the landlord?

No.

Well mine did.