Soundproofing Ceiling

Fraise

nickyg2000 wrote: »

http://isostore.com/comparing-acoustic-underlayment/

Really interesting information on this website above. Debunking bogus underlay ratings.

Other useful resource is soundproofingrus.co.uk. They said they could fit impact underlay and expect about a 10% reduction in impact sound. They have fitted 1000's of systems. Also soundstop and London sound proofing all give good info

That website you've linked are in the business of soundproofing, they don't supply underlay, so one could easily assume it's in their interest to try and persuade potential customers not to buy underlay, and purchase their far more costly products instead!

You say the site debunks bogus underlay ratings, but there's nothing bogus about the ratings at all. Just as the company itself (an American one...) proudly claims that their matting is laboratory tested, so are the impact underplays you can buy in the UK. The only difference is that the companies here that sell the excellent impact underlay, don't have to try and rubbish other products like the company you recommend does. They don't need to rubbish them, as their products do all the talking. They sell a huge amount of Colour red impact underlay, and you only need to check the reviews to see how thrilled all the customers are.

You, for some reason, refuse to believe anyone or anything, unless you want to. And considering I have actually bought the impact underlay MYSELF - and you never have - I would say my opinion of it is far better than yours whose never even seen a sample!

It is complete bunkum to say impact underlay only provides a 10% reduction in noise - even run of the mill ordinary underlay provides more than 10%!

You're giving your opinion, you're not giving factual evidence from experience like I am.

The underlay I purchased has eliminated almost ALL noise....and the noise was horrendous. That's a FACT.

nickyg2000

I spoke to both Soundproofingrus.co.uk and londonsoundproofing.co.uk. Both supply the underlay you mentioned and say I will have an effect but it will be limited. They quoted £800 for it to be fitted and floorboards screwed down but I don't have access.

They have fitted 1000's of systems over the last 10 years and have very good checkatrade reviews over this period non of which are bad. You can read what percentage reductions people have had with various systems.

They are professionals with no vested interested in lying to clients and getting bad feedback on Check a trade of which they have non.

Look at what is required to pass current building regs i.e Robustdetail. Its a lot bloody more than some underlay from carpetright

nickyg2000

Please leave links to feedback on this this amazing color red underlay along with test data for use on timber floors.

Regards

nickyg2000

Fraise, You, 'for some reason, refuse to believe anyone or anything, unless you want to'

I believe the 3 professional sound proofing company's I spoke too. Why do you think they are all lying? despite having years of experience and great feedback on check a trade. The information is based on research and experience.

And they do supply the underlay color red if you want it fitted they just said alone the improvements will be limited but its a good starting point. Why say they don't sell it when you don't know the facts?

theEnd

Well, should be getting a quote next week on the ceiling. Depending on price, it's likely I'll give it a try on half the flat (bedroom and surrounding).

foxwales

The cheapest option would be to pack the cavity between the floors with insulation. This not only serves in reducing noise, but also helps insulate the property from heat loss. Coupled with some good quality underlay under upstairs flooring should provide a better alternative.

Consider approaching the landlord to share the cost of doing this as this is a benefit to you both.

nickyg2000

Let me know how you get on theEnd. Which system you thinking of using? I was going to use hanger c (ceiling retained) with res bars and rock wool.

theEnd

I don't really know much about it, so will see what they suggest. Did the same with heating and windows and worked out really well.

Fraise

nickyg2000 wrote: »

I spoke to both Soundproofingrus.co.uk and londonsoundproofing.co.uk. Both supply the underlay you mentioned and say I will have an effect but it will be limited. They quoted £800 for it to be fitted and floorboards screwed down but I don't have access.

They have fitted 1000's of systems over the last 10 years and have very good checkatrade reviews over this period non of which are bad. You can read what percentage reductions people have had with various systems.

They are professionals with no vested interested in lying to clients and getting bad feedback on Check a trade of which they have non.

Look at what is required to pass current building regs i.e Robustdetail. Its a lot bloody more than some underlay from carpetright

Not sure if you're aware but Check a Trade are one to avoid!!!!

Absolutely ANYONE can advertise on check a trade......and there's some rights sharks on there! I know that for a fact, bad it's well known in the industry. Check a trade works for tradesmen.....and that's how they make their money.

The best (though not infallible) is Which Magazine when looking for a trade desman, avoid check a trade at all costs. One roofing company who advertises on Check a TrAde (and I can supply names if allowed) are the biggest badgers and crooks going. They do TERRIBLe work and overcharge by THOUSANDS.

Check a trade is just a clever marketing site out to make money.

Fraise

foxwales wrote: »

The cheapest option would be to pack the cavity between the floors with insulation. This not only serves in reducing noise, but also helps insulate the property from heat loss. Coupled with some good quality underlay under upstairs flooring should provide a better alternative.

Consider approaching the landlord to share the cost of doing this as this is a benefit to you both.

You're spot on......your suggestion is effective, and not that costly. Thousands of people live happily in flats without resorting to expensive soundproofing......just insulation, good underlay and carpet should cut the noise dramatically.

A conversion is basically a large house, and families living in one large house don't suffer from these problems.....because they lay underlay and carpet in the bedrooms above!