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Local authority milage

Hi I work for a local authority and use my own car to travel to different jobs within the district. We have been told :-


1. if we do any visits on our way to from work we have to deduct our normal milage to work from the claim. an example would be I travel to do my first job which is 4 from home then travel into the office another 7 miles because the first job is in the opposite direction. I have to deduct my normal travel to work milage off the total milage. ie home to first job to office is 11 miles but home to work direct is 8.5 so I can only claim 3.5 miles. This seems unfair when I am still using my car for business. In my opinion I should be able to claim 7 miles first job to office? are these rules laid down any where for tax purposes etc?


2. We get paid a milage rate of 40p per mile but each month also get a lump sum towards the cost of the running the car which is approx. £80. I am aware that hmrc pay 45p per mile and I have heard we can claim the difference between 40 and 45p. Anyone have any knowledge of this?
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  • headpin
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    paberley wrote: »
    Hi I work for a local authority and use my own car to travel to different jobs within the district. We have been told :-


    1. if we do any visits on our way to from work we have to deduct our normal milage to work from the claim. an example would be I travel to do my first job which is 4 from home then travel into the office another 7 miles because the first job is in the opposite direction. I have to deduct my normal travel to work milage off the total milage. ie home to first job to office is 11 miles but home to work direct is 8.5 so I can only claim 3.5 miles. This seems unfair when I am still using my car for business. In my opinion I should be able to claim 7 miles first job to office? are these rules laid down any where for tax purposes etc?


    2. We get paid a milage rate of 40p per mile but each month also get a lump sum towards the cost of the running the car which is approx. £80. I am awarehat hmrc pay 45p per mile and I have heard we can claim the difference between 40 and 45p. Anyone have any knowledge of this?
    thanks
    These are nationally agreed T&C's. You are being paid the mileage over and above what you would have driven had you gone straight in to work. Otherwise you would be profiting and the Council Tax payer picking up the tab. On the HMRC, you also need to factor in the value of the Essential User lump sum against the 40p v 45p. Your employer will supply you and the tax man with a P60 detailing in expenses paid, and it is likely that you will have to pay tax unless you do a huge amount of business miles each tax year, rather than looking at claiming any extra tax relief.
  • These terms are pretty standard, I work for a HA and you have to deduct your mileage to work before making an claim for a journey, even if you don't drive to the office. I don't see why that's unfair though... If you live a fair distance from the office unfortunately you will get hit, but that's your choice.
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  • Think yourself lucky you get 40p per mile. If I use my car at work to travel to another site (not often) I only get 30p per mile.

    Another example of LA's wasting money.
  • Richard53
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    No-one gets paid for driving to work, not even in local government. If a job on your way to work means an extra 3½ miles, then 3½ miles is what you should be paid. Any more is profit for you, and a loss to me, the Council Tax payer.

    40p/mile is close to the maximum allowable under HMRC rules. You're doing well already.
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  • Johno100
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    Think yourself lucky you get 40p per mile. If I use my car at work to travel to another site (not often) I only get 30p per mile.

    Another example of LA's wasting money.

    Or evidence that you work for a tight fisted employer.
  • Johno100
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    OP have you considered applying to be a home worker, then the clock would start ticking from the moment you left your front door? You could also claim for the mileage on the occasions you needed to go into the office.
  • paberley wrote: »
    Hi I work for a local authority and use my own car to travel to different jobs within the district. We have been told :-


    1. if we do any visits on our way to from work we have to deduct our normal milage to work from the claim. an example would be I travel to do my first job which is 4 from home then travel into the office another 7 miles because the first job is in the opposite direction. I have to deduct my normal travel to work milage off the total milage. ie home to first job to office is 11 miles but home to work direct is 8.5 so I can only claim 3.5 miles. This seems unfair when I am still using my car for business. In my opinion I should be able to claim 7 miles first job to office? are these rules laid down any where for tax purposes etc?


    2. We get paid a milage rate of 40p per mile but each month also get a lump sum towards the cost of the running the car which is approx. £80. I am aware that hmrc pay 45p per mile and I have heard we can claim the difference between 40 and 45p. Anyone have any knowledge of this?
    thanks

    Sounds fair enough.

    Remember if you first call is on the way to the office you don't claim at all. Don't want to get caught out like the MPs.
  • Syman
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    I also work for the LA. we have the same terms. However I live on site so it does not really apply to me.
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  • Johno100 wrote: »
    Or evidence that you work for a tight fisted employer.

    Hence why I said not often, as I usually refuse to. When it is asked of me it is a favour and not part of my employment role.
  • Welcome to the real world, I'm afraid. That's the way commercial organisations pay their employees' mileage expenses, so IMO it's dead right that publicly funded organisations pay their staff in the same way.
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