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  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    Since I don't know the system I'm curious as to why the Baby Daddies aren't expected to pay for their kids?

    Women who know how to work the system turn up at the social, say they got drunk and pregnant and don't know who the father is. Fast track to a house. What else can you do?

    The Dad on Benefits Street did a 'job' to pay for his kids, but you saw what happened. Many of those claiming Housing Benefit are in work which doesn't pay the rent. A situation that Osborne is making worse by pumping up house prices with Help to Bubble (with the approval of Buy to Let landlords on here)
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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,932 Ambassador
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    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    Since I don't know the system I'm curious as to why the Baby Daddies aren't expected to pay for their kids?

    If daddy is on benefits then he will only have to pay £5 a week in maintenance. Even this amount will be ignored by benefits when calculating the amount of benefit for Mum and babies.
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  • SnooksNJ
    SnooksNJ Posts: 829 Forumite
    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Women who know how to work the system turn up at the social, say they got drunk and pregnant and don't know who the father is. Fast track to a house. What else can you do?

    The Dad on Benefits Street did a 'job' to pay for his kids, but you saw what happened. Many of those claiming Housing Benefit are in work which doesn't pay the rent. A situation that Osborne is making worse by pumping up house prices with Help to Bubble (with the approval of Buy to Let landlords on here)
    If they can't afford rent or disclose the Baby Daddy do what everyone else does who can't afford rent and move in with their parents or another relative.
  • SnooksNJ
    SnooksNJ Posts: 829 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    If daddy is on benefits then he will only have to pay £5 a week in maintenance. Even this amount will be ignored by benefits when calculating the amount of benefit for Mum and babies.
    Why is it only £5 because I know people who pay 1/3 of their salary for child support. I'm wondering why these Daddies missed the FYI don't have unprotected sex unless you can pay for having kids.
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 36,093 Forumite
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    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    Why is it only £5 because I know people who pay 1/3 of their salary for child support. I'm wondering why these Daddies missed the FYI don't have unprotected sex unless you can pay for having kids.

    If someone is on benefits they only pay £5 in total. if they are not working and not in receipt of benefits it is nil (SAHD).

    If they have run up arrears from non-payment and are working then the CSA can deduct up to 40% of their salary via their employer.
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  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    If they can't afford rent or disclose the Baby Daddy do what everyone else does who can't afford rent and move in with their parents or another relative.

    At the risk of stating the obvious what happens when they haven't got 'parents or another relative' they can move in with?
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  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    Why is it only £5 because I know people who pay 1/3 of their salary for child support..

    At the risk of stating the obvious the Daddy either can't be found or has no money other than benefits which are the minimum to live on.
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  • Glen_Clark wrote: »
    At the risk of stating the obvious what happens when they haven't got 'parents or another relative' they can move in with?

    Then they should be keeping their clothes fully on until such time that IF an accident occur they could better deal with it.
  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Women who know how to work the system turn up at the social, say they got drunk and pregnant and don't know who the father is. Fast track to a house. What else can you do?

    The Dad on Benefits Street did a 'job' to pay for his kids, but you saw what happened. Many of those claiming Housing Benefit are in work which doesn't pay the rent. A situation that Osborne is making worse by pumping up house prices with Help to Bubble (with the approval of Buy to Let landlords on here)

    I worked in homeless projects for over 15 years and worked with many young women, some who were pregnant, being pregnant did not give anyone a fast track to a house, they did not get extra points for pregnancy. A lot of the young people I worked with were deemed vulnerable for many reasons and some were offered houses within 6 months but the average wait for a house was a year, some waited up to two years. Pregnancy didnt give any of them extra housing points. Priority points are not given out easily, Ive been at meetings with young people who qualified for priority points (not due to pregnancy) and we very much had to argue that they deserved them and in a lot of cases had to provide letters from GPs as well. The get pregnant and get straight to the top of the housing queue is not what happens in reality from my experience of working with single young homeless people or those who had a partner.

    Im in Scotland and it might be different up here, but its been the case for a long time now that being pregnant does not fast track anyone up the council house waiting list.
  • outofmoney
    outofmoney Posts: 936 Forumite
    edited 23 January 2014 at 3:20PM
    paulineb wrote: »
    I worked in homeless projects for over 15 years and worked with many young women, some who were pregnant, being pregnant did not give anyone a fast track to a house, they did not get extra points for pregnancy. A lot of the young people I worked with were deemed vulnerable for many reasons and some were offered houses within 6 months but the average wait for a house was a year, some waited up to two years. Pregnancy didnt give any of them extra housing points. Priority points are not given out easily, Ive been at meetings with young people who qualified for priority points (not due to pregnancy) and we very much had to argue that they deserved them and in a lot of cases had to provide letters from GPs as well. The get pregnant and get straight to the top of the housing queue is not what happens in reality from my experience of working with single young homeless people or those who had a partner.

    Im in Scotland and it might be different up here, but its been the case for a long time now that being pregnant does not fast track anyone up the council house waiting list.

    Hmm, If only we only had to wait 6 months, or even two years. Silly us made the mistake of getting married and then having children. Now been on the waiting list for 14 years!

    My niece on the other hand, who was 3 when we went on the list, now has two children by different (absent by her doing) fathers and has a lovely council house to live in.
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