Drill for drilling brick

Rodney_Trotter

londonTiger wrote: »

maybe hand tighend bits are fine for expensive drills, but for cheap drills I dont think they're that good. I have a cheap rolson cordless that I was using to build a wood frame. The bit jammed into the wood and pulled out of the chuck!

The negativer reviews for hand tightened chucks for cheap drills tend to corroborate that,

the keyed chuck is an addon to SDS so I can use the standard round bits (SDS only available for masonry, wood & HSS tend to be standard round bits)

I know what the chuck is for, I was asking how it fits since you are having a problem with the bits. You don't use grease either do you?

londonTiger

Rodney_Trotter wrote: »

I know what the chuck is for, I was asking how it fits since you are having a problem with the bits. You don't use grease either do you?

no greasing sounds like a nightmare, knowing me I'll get it all over my hands, clothes and the chuck would be a dust magnet as well.

The wobble is actually very bad with the chuck adapter, but with just drill bit it's not too bad. It's fairly managable with carpentary bits on the adapter because they have a pin in the middle which guide the bit in.I just press it exactly where I want the hole to be while drill is inactive and then turn it on rather than turning it on and then pushing it into the surface.

Never tried it with metal - I am buying a pillar drill for metalworking.

Rodney_Trotter

So without any lubrication how do you expect the bit to slide in the chuck?

A cheap drill without lubrication sounds like a recipe for disaster. SDS aren't good at centring anyway are you using them for accurate work in wood?

Rodney_Trotter

londonTiger wrote: »

I think the SDS chuck doesn't flush fit the bits properly. I use Bosch bits too and they are the TM owners for SDS so they should know their stuff.

Any excuse I can find to return the drill is good for me

Are they?

It was developed by Bosch and Hilti.

londonTiger

well I wanted to find out what SDS actually stood for as there are about 100 different guesses as to what it originally abbreviated. I did a TM lookup in the hopes that the TM would state what it meant. Found that TM belongs to Robert Bosch GmbH

tony6403

Robin_Boone wrote: »

No, that and the lidl one will be dreadful. If you are going to invest in a drill you should buy a quality one, that will last and not let you down, otherwise you're just wasting your money, Makita being my personal choice, otherwise DeWalt and Bosch are also of a good quality.

Do some Googling and you will see that there is growing evidence that Lidl's Parkside brand is produced in the same factory as Bosch. eg here http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance/cs/forums/2581367/PrintPost.aspx
I have handled them and they are well constructed.
I haven't bought a Parkside drill but I did buy a 115mm grinder which , for £23 , has taken some real stick and is as good as my Makita.

cyclonebri1

tony6403 wrote: »

Do this sort of stuff often. My cordless 18v Dewalt hammer drill with a decent bit does 8mm holes in brick with ease.
No need for SDS on this type of work.
Agree with Southcoastgirl ; when they have them in stock the drills in Lidl (and Aldi) are well worth buying with the long warranty.

For once Tony I totally disagree with you.

The action of an sds drill is far removed from that of a hammer drill. If you get faced with a tough, say engineering brick wall, then simple masonry drills in a hammer drill won;t pay the bill, sorry.

Ruski

However, in this case cyclone, he's drilling and plugging for dowpipes - thus SDS is an overkill

Russ

cyclonebri1

Ruski wrote: »

However, in this case cyclone, he's drilling and plugging for dowpipes - thus SDS is an overkill

Russ

Totally depends on what brick he is drilling, I'm sure you would agree???, plus, you can still get an adapter for the SDS to take simple masonry drills for less than the cost diff between an SDS and standard drill??

Flexibility is the word in mind:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Rodney_Trotter

Ruski wrote: »

However, in this case cyclone, he's drilling and plugging for dowpipes - thus SDS is an overkill

Russ

Quite.


Use a cordless and put the plugs in the motar joint.