Live-In Landlord unhappy with guest staying

Guest101

£20 for one month, for one person. Meh must've had 8 showers a day! What a load of rubbish.

Offer him a reasonable amount in your eyes

Or tell him to take you to court.

phill99

Guest101 wrote: »

I don't need a lesson, left school long ago

Evidently, if you had attended some lessons, you would know otherwise.

00ec25

thesaint wrote: »

The OP can have whatever contract he likes.
The landlord/brother could turf him out tomorrow.

Of course he could threaten allsorts, but I bet you five whole pounds he would get nowhere.
He could take your advice. In fact I wish he would, it would make an interesting thread.

wrong - please pay £5 to a charity of your choice
on the basis of the (new more detailed) info provided by the OP it would appear he has been given an AST over a single room in the property with right of access to common parts (ie share of the facilities).

it is perfectly legal to do this and is a valid AST. He is therefore a tenant not a lodger. This is standard stuff and is how the TA for some HMO properties can be configured so that each tenant does not have joint and several liability for any missed rent by the other occupants

RAS

OP

Did you give consent for the secod brother to couch-surf?

And what contribution is he making to the household expenses?

He needs to pay for each day he is there as much as is demanded daily for your GF's stop-over.

thesaint

00ec25 wrote: »

wrong - please pay £5 to a charity of your choice

When the OP is thrown out, and gets somewhere in court/authorities, I shall cough up my fiver.

00ec25 wrote: »

on the basis of the (new more detailed) info provided by the OP it would appear he has been given an AST over a single room in the property with right of access to common parts (ie share of the facilities).

it is perfectly legal to do this and is a valid AST. He is therefore a tenant not a lodger. This is standard stuff and is how the TA for some HMO properties can be configured so that each tenant does not have joint and several liability for any missed rent by the other occupants

The landlord in this case is a person whom appears not to have granted any agreement to this lodger.

If I was advising the brother, I would tell him to throw the lodger out, and maintain that he is the landlord who was renting a room out without his brothers permission.

The brother who lives abroad would know nothing of the situation.

Guest101

phill99 wrote: »

Evidently, if you had attended some lessons, you would know otherwise.

It's called shorthand my friend

Guest101

thesaint wrote: »

When the OP is thrown out, and gets somewhere in court/authorities, I shall cough up my fiver.



The landlord in this case is a person whom appears not to have granted any agreement to this lodger.

If I was advising the brother, I would tell him to throw the lodger out, and maintain that he is the landlord who was renting a room out without his brothers permission.

The brother who lives abroad would know nothing of the situation.

Advising illegal eviction now? Crikey, last landlord I read did this got fine big time

Kynthia

Okay, so you are now saying that your landlord doesn't live with you? Are you very sure that you aren't the lodger of the brother living in the property? This is a very important point and changes everything. If the absent brother is definitely your landlord on your contract then you are a tenant with those rights. If your contract is for just your room then this room is where you have 'exclusive occupation' and you can't be told how to live in this room, however the rest of the property is communal. What does your contract say about how bills are handled or are you expected to work it out with the other 'tenants'? You can be given notice to leave for any or no reason as long as it expires after your fixed term, although I don't think the resident brother can do it as it should come from the landlord.

dad76

Guest101 wrote: »

Sorry to disagree, but the op is a tenant and can enforce certain rights quite easily.

Good spot about the deposit, op was this protected?

Badly phrased on my part. I meant the landlord may decide to serve him notice if he causes a perfectly legal fuss. Although given deposit unlikely to be protected good luck with that.

OP if you are an AST you should have been given some prescribed info re your deposit such as where it is held, how to get it back etc.

00ec25

thesaint wrote: »

The landlord in this case is a person whom appears not to have granted any agreement to this lodger.

NO
based on the fact none of us have seen the exact wording then the OP has stated that the brother (brother A) living abroad is named on the TA as the LL - that makes him the LL

the brother residing in the property (brother and collecting the rent is acting as agent for brother A and therefore meets HMRC's requirements for payment of rent where the LL lives abroad (without that the OP would instead be personally liable to pay the income tax due on the rent on behalf of his LL - brother A)

the couch surfer (brother C) is , we can only assume at this point, a guest of brother B and has no legal rights in the property at all since he is not (we assume) paying rent to brother A. If C is paying B then he is doing so in the capacity of a lodger of B

liability for utilities etc is therefore down to either what is written in the contract and as this is nothiong then the LL remains laible for them as they are in his name and his attempts at increasing rent to cover for his extra costs are unenforceable as the rent amount is the rent amount and cannot be increased whilst the fixed term is running

thesaint wrote: »

The brother who lives abroad would know nothing of the situation.

brother A living abroad would soon get to hear about it when the OP is presented with a tax bill (+ penalties) by HMRC for failure to deduct tax from rent payable to an unregistered overseas LL
I am sure the OP would be on here for advice toute suite and that is what we would tell him to do as that is the correct position, unlike your ill informed rambling