3rd degree, what do I do now? [Considering Appeal]

James240

BigBouncyBall wrote: »

Are you going to listen to your own advice?? Somehow i doubt it - I can see that post coming back to haunt you

blimey mate weve been giving him advice left right and centre in the arms and Discussion time belive me its a waste of time many have tried and failed:rolleyes:

jobcentrephil is an AE who just about winds everyone up.


go and find a job studentphilbot!!! :cool:

[Deleted User]

No, they have a pool of many equally good people, many of whom have 2:1s and 1sts. It's a very simple mechanism to reduce the number of people you interview

I understand how it works, personally I feel its my lack of management experience that is holding me back, I don't feel hard done by if I get knocked back a few times - those people with 1sts and 2:1s worked hard and earned their qualifications

studentphil

ringo_24601 wrote: »

No, they have a pool of many equally good people, many of whom have 2:1s and 1sts. It's a very simple mechanism to reduce the number of people you interview

I understand how it works, personally I feel its my lack of management experience that is holding me back, I don't feel hard done by if I get knocked back a few times - those people with 1sts and 2:1s worked hard and earned their qualifications

A lot of people worked hard for 2;2, thirds and passes too.

melancholly

studentphil wrote: »

A lot of people worked hard for 2;2, thirds and passes too.

we;ve been through this - whether or not it is FAIR for people to screen employees based on degree class is largely beside the point. they do it that way - so you either try to fight most of the business world in the uk or accept it. either way your comments are really not helpful to the discussion about the OPs dilemma.

studentphil

melancholly wrote: »

we;ve been through this - whether or not it is FAIR for people to screen employees based on degree class is largely beside the point. they do it that way - so you either try to fight most of the business world in the uk or accept it. either way your comments are really not helpful to the discussion about the OPs dilemma.

A very small number of big firms screen on degree class. For the vast majority of jobs in the UK there is no talk of degree class.

Blacksheep1979

studentphil wrote: »

A very small number of big firms screen on degree class. For the vast majority of jobs in the UK there is no talk of degree class.

acutally alot of firms do for grad roles, but it doesn't mean you can't start a little lower and work your way up.

studentphil wrote: »

You know really when you look at a CV one word or two numbers for your degree class is the most tiny part of your application. So with all your other skills and qualities your degree class is lost in all that.

Your name is also only a small part of the application - but I'd say that was quite important.

[Deleted User]

SP - if it was a contest on how hard people worked, then that'd be all well and good, but its not.

Lets get it out in the open - in general, people who get a 3rd are not as able as people who get 1sts. There's not much place in the world for people who work hard and don't succeeded. For graduate jobs, the best jobs go to those with the best qualifications. Experience (in terms of employability) only kicks in after you've got some working life under your belt.

Having to work hard in order to only just pass a degree isn't exactly a sign of employability

studentphil

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

acutally alot of firms do for grad roles, but it doesn't mean you can't start a little lower and work your way up.



Your name is also only a small part of the application - but I'd say that was quite important.

Fine, not really many jobs are for graduate trainees though are they in all the jobs in the UK?

To be honest, firms don't care about your name either only what you can do.

If you start at one or two levels under a graduate post then a degree is not an issue and you can prove yourself a good person. Some of the best brightest people, who are dependable and loyal and hardworking have rubbish degrees and grades all because they could not write good essays. But the ability to write essays has no bearing on their ability at a job.

studentphil

ringo_24601 wrote: »

SP - if it was a contest on how hard people worked, then that'd be all well and good, but its not.

Lets get it out in the open - in general, people who get a 3rd are not as able as people who get 1sts. There's not much place in the world for people who work hard and don't succeeded. For graduate jobs, the best jobs go to those with the best qualifications.

Experience (in terms of employability) only kicks in after you've got some working life under your belt

Not able at writing university essays I agree, but no job I know of outside universities involves essay writing, so maybe what a degree does say for the vast majority of jobs is rather limited.

Blacksheep1979

Phil basically p!ss off - this is not a thread about you, your mum or how unfair degrees can be/not representative of the real world. This is someone elses thread and yet again you're hijacking it.

If you can't even follow your own advice (or others) you are not fit to give it.