Speeding? Manned equipment.

molerat

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

Round here on a stretch of the A24 double dual carriageway they dropped the speed limit from 60 to 50 and the next week hid a remote camera behind a bush. Caught scores of the unwary. Bit sneaky though !

That was generous of them, round here they had a camera van out the same morning they changed the 40 to 30 ....... for road safety reasons you understand. :mad:

Jamie_Carter

Froggitt wrote: »

Looks like theres no option.


But annoying to be caught by a camera van hidden in the bushes.

Does it matter what method you were caught speeding by??


You were speeding, and you got caught, end of.

arcon5

Froggitt wrote: »

Looks like theres no option.


But annoying to be caught by a camera van hidden in the bushes.

I once got caught doing 34 in a 30 past a fixed camera - one which I at the time drove past about 10+ times each working day. That was annoying. Some of these vans try their best to not be seen so I could forgive somebody for missing these more than the static ones. Often what happens is locals learn over time where they usually park and watch out for them - but now and again they throw a spanner in the works and shuffle about. They call it a 'road safety partnership' - I call it trickery. But ultimately it's hard to argue either way since technically the speed limits are in place and need abiding by! Even if in some areas it is safe enough to drive slightly faster.

AdrianC

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Does it matter what method you were caught speeding by??

You were speeding, and you got caught, end of.

"...and I'd like several thousand similar offences to be taken into consideration..."

arcon5 wrote: »

I once got caught doing 34 in a 30 past a fixed camera - one which I at the time drove past about 10+ times each working day. That was annoying. Some of these vans try their best to not be seen so I could forgive somebody for missing these more than the static ones. Often what happens is locals learn over time where they usually park and watch out for them - but now and again they throw a spanner in the works and shuffle about. They call it a 'road safety partnership' - I call it trickery. But ultimately it's hard to argue either way since technically the speed limits are in place and need abiding by! Even if in some areas it is safe enough to drive slightly faster.

At the end of the day, it comes down to observation. Every time I've had a photo taken, I've noticed at the time, and it's been because I've been distracted by something else for some reason - or just plain complacent.

Iceweasel

arcon5 wrote: »

I once got caught doing 34 in a 30 past a fixed camera - one which I at the time drove past about 10+ times each working day. That was annoying. Some of these vans try their best to not be seen so I could forgive somebody for missing these more than the static ones. Often what happens is locals learn over time where they usually park and watch out for them - but now and again they throw a spanner in the works and shuffle about. They call it a 'road safety partnership' - I call it trickery. But ultimately it's hard to argue either way since technically the speed limits are in place and need abiding by! Even if in some areas it is safe enough to drive slightly faster.

In the NE of Scotland you'd have to be very distracted or registered blind not to see them.

They have even built special small road-side lay-bys especially for them.

But yes, I doubt if they catch many locals.

We have one road - the A947 -60 limit - with a higher than average number of deaths and injuries and last week I counted 3 of the regions 8 camera vans in a 25 mile stretch of it.

I'm quite surprised you were prosecuted for 34 in a 30 limit - I thought that was within the 'threshold'.

Stooby2

Iceweasel wrote: »

I'm quite surprised you were prosecuted for 34 in a 30 limit - I thought that was within the 'threshold'.

Some local authorities have being doing their own enforcement and they don't apply the ACPO guidelines. There was uproar here in Croydon a few years ago when the council parked one of their vans in a layby on a long steep hill and did people doing 31mph and over down the hill.

shaun_from_Africa

Stooby2 wrote: »

There was uproar here in Croydon a few years ago when the council parked one of their vans in a layby on a long steep hill and did people doing 31mph and over down the hill.

I didn't think that any council could take action against speeders. I though that it was only the police or camera partnerships that had these powers, but I may well be wrong on this.

The police or safety camera partnerships wouldn't get away with that nowadays as the tolerance band for the speed detectors used is +/- 2mph at speeds below 66mph and +/- 3% above this figure.

Anyone stopped for speeding at below 32mph should easily be able to get the case dropped long before it ever got to court.

Aretnap

Councils can't enforce speed limits, at least not without police involvement. Only a chief office of police (or his proxy) can issue a s172 requirement, without which camera enforcement is effectively impossible, and only a constable can issue a fixed penalty for speeding. Sitting in the van pulling the trigger, along with some of the administrative work, may be done by civilian staff, but responsibility for the process is very firmly with the police.

spacey2012

They make millions, because we all drive like lemmings.
End of story.
Everyone speeds, everyone feels pushed from behind and intimidated by those behind.
If we all just slowed down and drove on the limit, there would be no speed cameras.

Froggitt

Or, get rid of all the speed cameras. Then there would be no speed cameras.