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Schooling for September born kid

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  • Person_one
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    geoffky wrote: »
    We all have choices...Some choose the money option..Some the being a full time mum option..
    As i have said before my wife's best friend owns a nursery and the stories of so called parents are eye opening.
    Like putting child in nursery when both parents (teachers) are off for six weeks in the summer...

    Nursery isn't always just about childcare.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    edited 20 December 2013 at 12:26AM
    Why are people so worried about a summer baby starting in year one?

    If they are happy and confident they will make friends no problem and you could easily cover the same academic ground as a school by spending an hour or less a day with them one to one.

    As for playing, nursery provides that and they also have to make adequate provision for children of reception age.

    Contrary to popular belief, they don't need to be in school to learn manners either and they will pick up the school routine easier at just 5 than they would have at just 4.

    It's just scare mongering so don't be so quick to shove your child into an institution - they have 11 years to make them conform so let them be carefree a bit longer.

    Instill a love of learning and reading in them and you will have set them up far better than the average reception class will.
  • daisiegg
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    Madmel wrote: »

    If your child is ready for school, get them interested in books, numbers and learning. Trust the teachers to do their job, be a supportive parent (like listening to them read each day) and the child will be fine.

    This times a million :)

    If you have a summer born child just be aware and on the ball, and they will be ok. Acknowledge the fact that the child might (and it is only might) struggle at school and be prepared to provide as much help and support at home as possible. At the same time don't stress or fret or let the child know you are worried! As long as parents are involved and supportive, it should be fine. :)
  • hawk30
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    geoffky wrote: »
    We all have choices...Some choose the money option..Some the being a full time mum option..
    As i have said before my wife's best friend owns a nursery and the stories of so called parents are eye opening.
    Like putting child in nursery when both parents (teachers) are off for six weeks in the summer...

    Why does it have to be full time mum? Would you allow full time dad?
  • duchy
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    edited 20 December 2013 at 10:10AM
    danielley wrote: »
    My Mum was born on 1st Sept in the 1950's and was incorrectly put in the year above so she was the youngest in her year.


    Come the last year of high school, the mistake was spotted and she had to stay a whole extra year (which she admits she bunked off for most of it)

    The same thing happened to a neighbour I was at school with. I never understood why he was a year above me when he was a few months younger. The error was spotted when he was supposed to move to secondary school -He had to repeat the last year of primary -whilst his half brother (who was in the same class) went off to high school. I never understood how the parents never worked out earlier what had happened-but I remember his Mum telling mine no-one realised until they applied for high school places (they were educated and apparently intelligent too). Socially it was really hard for him as he was literally "left behind" whilst his peers moved up and he had to start over making friends with his "new class".

    As for the OP's comment that people in Britain deliberately try to time babies in August rather than September to save on childcare costs....... words fail me-She obviously meets parents with very different parental priorities to the many I know !!!
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  • embob74
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    I have a child who was born on the cusp of the cut off date so he was one of the oldest in his year.
    He has always excelled at school and when we moved his new school put him in the year above and didn't notice for quite some time as he managed the work well. They moved him back down to the correct year stating that otherwise there would be an issue when it came to leaving school - he would have to stay on fro another year with the year below.

    So we agreed it was the best thing but it wasn't. He failed an important GCSE and had to retake and due to the year tutor at the time he was not allowed back to school to do it and we didn't find out until it was too late to get a place at college. By the time he went to college to do a retake he was 2 years behind everybody which raised issues regarding funding of the college course.
    I do believe children should be assessed on ability and not age as far too many are held back when they could excel and too many are pushed forward when they could benefit from more time to grasp the basics.

    I do think that only wanting your child to start earlier to avoid paying nursery fees is totally the wrong reason and should not ever be a point of consideration.
    Although I bet millions of families are counting the days to the end of childcare costs as they can be an extortionate amount from a household income.
  • Birdie85
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    I can't imagine anyone planning for an August baby to save on childcare costs, everybody I've come across actually would rather plan to not have a late summer baby! I'd even be a bit uneasy about expecting a September baby in case they were early. :o

    OP, you're not losing out on an extra year of 'free childcare' in the form of school, your child is going to school at the right age, it's the summer babies who are being cheated out of the extra care free time at home/nursery before being thrust into full time education when they're not necessarily ready for it! You need to rethink your priorities. I went to school with a boy who was born on September 2nd and his parents must have pulled come strings to get him put into our year when he actually belonged in the year below, it was a mistake IMO as he was clever enough but clearly struggled socially as he was the youngest and least mature (and one of the smallest) in the year and it was obvious all the way through school and college. A silly decision now to try to get your DD into school a year early to save on childcare costs could have a negative effect on her entire school career.
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  • FBaby
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    I don't think the frustrating is only about childcare costs but having to pay when the child is clearly ready to start all and even on some occasions staying in nursery can be more detrimental for that child. This seems to be the case with the OP.
  • FBaby wrote: »
    I don't think the frustrating is only about childcare costs but having to pay when the child is clearly ready to start all and even on some occasions staying in nursery can be more detrimental for that child. This seems to be the case with the OP.

    As far as I can see the OP hasn't mentioned whether her 'kid' is grown out of nursery, ready for school, bright, mature etc. she has only mentioned the financial aspect.
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  • Nicki
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    As far as I can see the OP hasn't mentioned whether her 'kid' is grown out of nursery, ready for school, bright, mature etc. she has only mentioned the financial aspect.

    Perhaps because it's a money saving site and people very often tack on that something is very MSE to a post about something else entirely?

    I didn't read the post as being only about saving money on childcare but the OP has been roundly attacked and accused of wanting to send her child to school when she isn't ready when there is absolutely no evidence one way or another about this particular child. I'm not surprised she hasn't come back to clarify as there have been a lot of very rude and aggressive posts on here (some now deleted thankfully)
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