Schooling for September born kid

peachyprice

movilogo wrote: »

It may be an advantage that she would be more matured compared to August born ones. However, I guess that would be only first/second year or so.

No, it follows them through their whole school life.

alwaysskint96

Caroline_a wrote: »

My two eldest are nearly 2 years apart, but one is a late summer baby and the other an early autumn, which meant that they were a school year apart. The summer one struggled for probably 60% of her school career, whereas the older 'autumn' one found school easy and sailed through.

However, the OP doesn't care about that. She is only bothered about having to pay for extra childcare. Words fail me...

But its not always the case. I was an Aug baby- born 6 weeks prem so due end of Sept. I was miles ahead of most of my school year- and it was a selective prep school i was at. My brothers with their October birthdays struggled far far more

I have kids born in Aug Oct and Nov- no real difference between them coping with school- maybe the 2nd (Oct birthday) struggled most be she was the one not in full time nursery and just in playgroup

However to the OP- its a damn sight easier when they are in full time nursery/childcare rather than reception class and silly hours p/t childcare. Had to collect Nov child from school at lunchtime during my break and drop to nursery till the late afternoon as school did mornings only at first. Out of 16 kids in that class 12 of them had come from full time daycare- parents were using holiday allowances grandparents new childminders instead- much hassle

slightlyconfused1

This thread has totally depressed me.

Am I the only one that finds the fact that a large percentage of children will be disadvantaged throughout their school career solely because of their month of birth shocking? Why is this just accepted?

When I was at school (back in the dark ages) there were two intakes, one in summer, one at Christmas. The same as there were three nursery intakes when my daughter started (she is now 12).

I am lucky I live in Scotland where there is much more flexibility regarding school start dates.

I would also like to add that not once has the cost of childcare ever affected any decision regarding my children's education or social development. I would gladly spend every penny I have to help my children.

daisiegg

slightlyconfused1 wrote: »

This thread has totally depressed me.

I am the only one that finds the fact that a large percentage of children will be disadvantaged throughout their school career solely because of their month of birth shocking? Why is this just accepted?

When I was at school (back in the dark ages) there were two intakes, one in summer, one at Christmas. The same as there were three nursery intakes when my daughter started (she is now 12).

I am lucky I live in Scotland where there is much more flexibility regarding school start dates.

I would also like to add that not once has the cost of childcare ever affected any decision regarding my children's education or social development. I would gladly spend every penny I have to help my children.

Children are supposedly* disadvantaged for a LOT of reasons. Being from an ethnic minority, having parents who are not well educated themselves, speaking English as an additional language, having special educational needs, being on free school meals....etc. I suppose you're right, it's not fair, but schools are more aware of it now than ever before and have to do all they can to support the 'disadvantaged' groups and be able to prove that they are putting everything in place to help those students achieve.

*I say 'supposedly' because of course there are exceptions to every rule! One of the most highly achieving students I teach is on free school meals, from a minority ethnic background, and English is her third language. Oh, I just looked her up in my register and her birthday is in May...not quite summer but not September either!

fluffnutter

Morglin wrote: »

Have to be honest, I'm not sure how much difference month of birth makes.

Daughter and I are August births, and didn't struggle, and grandaughter is a September birth and doing fine.

Lin

Oh dear. It's the 'my auntie smoked 60 a day for 80 years and lived to be 105 therefore smoking's not bad for you' argument.

Statistics can indeed be a bit meaningless at an individual level but you can't refute a general trend just because three people don't fit it.

Bluemeanie_2

Hubby was born on the 1st September. He like being the oldest in his school year. Meant he got to drive sooner (not technically, but compared to his peers it felt sooner - if that makes sense?!) and was generally more mature etc.

Our daughter was born on the 12th September and I'm glad. I want to teach her a few basics before she goes to school so it gives me more time.

jellyhead

Saturnalia wrote: »

Why would you want your kid in school at 3?

Let a child be a child, FGS!

I think they go full time at 3 in Wales?

jellyhead

fluffnutter wrote: »

Oh dear. It's the 'my auntie smoked 60 a day for 80 years and lived to be 105 therefore smoking's not bad for you' argument.

Statistics can indeed be a bit meaningless at an individual level but you can't refute a general trend just because three people don't fit it.

My annoying teenagers often tell me that 'the plural of anecdote is not data' ... usually when I have a cautionary tale to tell

jellyhead

iammumtoone wrote: »

Yes it is going to cost you a bit more in childcare but I would gladly have paid for my son to be allowed to be in the class below him.

Gosh, me too! For both of my summer boys - even at the end of high school you could see a real difference. Of course all children are different, but when you have children who are 'young for their age' and/or with special needs it makes such a difference. I have a friend of my eldest's living with me, and there's such a massive age gap that they could have actually been brothers, and some people assume that I gave birth to both of them, and comment on how nice it is for them to be in the same class with almost a year between them.

My eldest failed his AS levels and is now happily at college alongside kids who were in the year below him at school - it's where he fits in naturally, he needed that extra year to mature. Youngest is the same - if I could have paid a year's childcare equivalent to time the conception of my children, I would have!

puppypants

I was born on 31st August at 11 p.m. Another hour and I would have stayed ay home for another year. A lot depends on the quality of the schooling. The primary school I went to had 2 11plus passes in 10 years!!!!!