Didn't recieve first Notice to Keeper

Redx

as mentioned in your other thread , GROW UP !

mark55man

have read through the above, and am sorry for causing a bit of a barney.


* my motives were 1st and foremost not to pay the fine
* my motive for not sending the appeal to Popla is a bit more complicated but was partly because I am hugely distrustful of legal process,
* I really appreciate the advice posted when I looked at the Letter to Popla it just took me a while to make my mind up, and in the end it all felt too adversarial - my experience is that once you have made a point eg with the appeal the PE, I almost always end up negotiating the problem away
* if people felt their advice was ignored or their time wasted well then I am genuinely sorry, as you were genuinely helpful - I just chose not to go down the path you travelled
* If it comes to court - you bet I will be back (tail between my legs) and if I have blown my credit with this forum, well I will have to live with that


I won't add any more - just that I view this as a success and will be watching the remaining 5 years and 10 months count down without undue nervousness


Thank you Thank you Thank you, and please don't fall out over me!!

Redx

mark88man wrote: »

have read through the above, and am sorry for causing a bit of a barney.


1) * my motives were 1st and foremost not to pay the fine

2) * my motive for not sending the appeal to Popla is a bit more complicated but was partly because I am hugely distrustful of legal process,

3) * I really appreciate the advice posted when I looked at the Letter to Popla it just took me a while to make my mind up, and in the end it all felt too adversarial - my experience is that once you have made a point eg with the appeal the PE, I almost always end up negotiating the problem away

4) * if people felt their advice was ignored or their time wasted well then I am genuinely sorry, as you were genuinely helpful - I just chose not to go down the path you travelled

5) * If it comes to court - you bet I will be back (tail between my legs) and if I have blown my credit with this forum, well I will have to live with that


I won't add any more - just that I view this as a success and will be watching the remaining 5 years and 10 months count down without undue nervousness


Thank you Thank you Thank you, and please don't fall out over me!!

thank you for that frank response , no problem with it here but feel you had a golden opportunity wasted and with our help the popla route was less adversarial than the PE and court route (checking parking pranksters books about PE and court) - and the transcripts there too on his site

1) I have no problem with this point and most people here would say dont pay it too

2) you should have had more trust in myself and coupon-mad etc, PE just want your money but with the forum help here it would have been an easy slam dunk and painless too, you only have to read the POPLA DECISIONS thread to see the successes, dont just take my word for it

3) You cannot negotiate with PE, they take thousands of people to court and we would advise you to avoid that route no matter what you have read in this thread to the contrary, only go to court if you are up for it

4) a shame because myself and others on page 1 really wanted to help you win this at popla, like hundreds of others have done already

5) I hope this does not happen, but given how many they have taken to court and continue to issue court papers then I am pessimistic about your chances here

its a shame because it could have been all over and done with in your favour by now and not a penny paid out and PE would have not sent in any evidence judging by recent decisions , meaning it was likely to be a slam dunk in your favour

sorry to be the bearer of the bad news about 2 months not being 72 months !

da_rule

Thanks for your reply mark88man. It's a shame you felt that way and didn't say anything. The POPLA system is only as confrontational as sending an e-mail. There is no hearing for you to attend or any sort of arguments (or normally even correspondence) between the sides. Unfortunately if (I would quite confidently say 'when') the parking company come after you it will be using debt collectors followed by the court, which will be a lot more confrontational than POPLA.

da_rule

So much for him wanting to go to court then?

Redx

true , and I dont think he was lying about not receiving the first NTK either

4consumerrights

Wow this thread has certainly developed into a bit of a slanging match!

mark88man wrote: »

have read through the above, and am sorry for causing a bit of a barney.


* my motives were 1st and foremost not to pay the fine
* my motive for not sending the appeal to Popla is a bit more complicated but was partly because I am hugely distrustful of legal process,
* I really appreciate the advice posted when I looked at the Letter to Popla it just took me a while to make my mind up, and in the end it all felt too adversarial - my experience is that once you have made a point eg with the appeal the PE, I almost always end up negotiating the problem away
* if people felt their advice was ignored or their time wasted well then I am genuinely sorry, as you were genuinely helpful - I just chose not to go down the path you travelled
* If it comes to court - you bet I will be back (tail between my legs) and if I have blown my credit with this forum, well I will have to live with that


I won't add any more - just that I view this as a success and will be watching the remaining 5 years and 10 months count down without undue nervousness


Thank you Thank you Thank you, and please don't fall out over me!!

@Mark88Man - it is a shame that you did not submit that POPLA appeal as this would have been over for you now and the charge cancelled. Parking Eye do not do reason.

However what you should be doing positively now and before any court papers arrive is to complain to Aldi and get this charge cancelled. Proof of patronage - loyal customer and check with the planning departments where you live - Parking Eye and Aldi combination in particular breach those planning consents.



Do some other research also reading Daisy's LBCC thread (via first sticky) and should court papers arrive - you may be forgiven if you show willing and LISTEN to advice given.

The_Deep

Mark, I have read your last post and understand where you are coming from, but every so often one must rise above natural reticence, and take a stand. These companies, heirs to the clampers, are, in my opinion, the most devious and unprincipled operating in the UK today Even more so than ambulance chasers and and those gentlemen with a bit of tarmac left over from a job up the road.

The UK is one of the most consumer unfriendly countries in which I have ever lived. Eavesdropping Councisl, interfering social workers, political correctness has gone mad. In the small coastal town in Spain in which I spend half the year, parking is virtually free, (it encourages the tourists apparently). If you overstay at meter you are fined €1.50 or €2.00, payable into the meter. PPCs do not exist

Yesterday I had three unsolicited phone calls,, two were from scammers, one trying to persuade me to make an injury claim when someone went into my parked unoccupied car in a Tesco car park, and another from a person passing themselves off as The Telephone Preference Service trying to sell me a call blocker, the third was trying to sell me an overpriced funeral. plan.

Why do you think that such practices abound in this country? Could it be because people like your good-self will not stand up and fight for their rights, avoid confrontation at all costs, and get trampled on.

Although you have bruised the egos of a few precious souls on this board, they are right, remember Pastor Neimoller's famous poem, time to speak out Martin.

Redx

I cannot argue there, you are quite right in what you say above and I have no problem with helping those who wish to do so if I am able to and would encourage others to do so too if they have the ability and providing the OP of any thread is willing

In this particular case I dont think he wishes to do so but those who wish to fight these people can and should and I would prefer it if things in this country mirrored spain in what was said above as its becoming too orwellian and nobody seems to want to change it and make it right or fair, as can be seen from the recent thread about the martin cutts emails

my view is to help those to help themselves, many times it isnt court that they want but a quick and painless resolution, but I have had to realise in the last 18 months that this sc*m needs fighting by any means possible although the people I have helped so far have avoided court which is good in many ways but doesnt get the long lasting problem solved

maybe the court cases tomorrow may help once we know those verdicts and outcomes (the ones that were stayed) and I can only hope its black friday for PE and their "lawyers"