Stopped by Police - No Ticket, No Speed Camera, No Speed Gun?

james_joyce

pogofish wrote: »

Probably just looking you over for drink or all sorts of other activities?

I could go-on at length about some of the rather preposterous reasons I've been given for being pulled here before - To the point where I did wonder if driving capably might be a crime in itself?

Anyway, nothing ever comes of it.

I was once stopped by the police for allegedly using my mobile phone while driving. They said something about my lifting up my hand to somewhere near my ear. I explained they were welcome to check my phone, which I hadn't used for at least ten minutes, ie from when I'd been parked up.

They didn't bother checking, and they accepted they'd been mistaken. However they still gave me the planned telling-off anyway! Explained how I shouldn't use my phone while driving, it was very dangerous etc. I just smiled and nodded politely. Finally they let me go.

Didn't help that they chose to follow me into my work office car park to do all this...

w211

Tilt wrote: »

18 hour shift eh? Not sure about the rules in Scotland but dosn't that breach the working time directive? AFAIK max working day is 16 hours.

This also could depend on the type of vehicle you are driving.
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Just a couple of observations:

The OP could be working on a self-employed basis, so could work as long as they liked, but I believe the company giving him the work could be held liable if something were to happen.

Also I doubt the OP would be doing take away food deliveries in a goods vehicle with a gross vehicle weight greater than 3.5-tons - as I think that's the limit for that vehicle to be equipped with a tachograph.

[Deleted User]

I don't think the OP meant 18 hours at work. More like done a day job then did a night job doing takeaway delivery.

If you are doing takeaway delivery without proper food delivery insurance then I'd be doublely making sure I don't attract police attention while driving with deliveries on board. Also make sure you keep deliveries in the boot. Not on the seats like I see so many drivers doing.

arcon5

wba31 wrote: »

And it's your attitude of take away his licence, let him lose his job and income to the household, fall potentially into a position of problem debt that keeps people coming to my place of work for help.

It's not all black and white these things. he's admitted he didnt see the speed notice, he's been honest and frank and just wantd a bit of advice. I dont think anyone who doesnt have a clean licence, and has always had a clean licence is in a position to judge this guy.

get off your high horse, and if you're not prepared to add anything of value just keep your small minded opinions to yourself

So because you don't agree with my opinion (it it seems others too) then it is of no value and small minded? Smell the irony?

There's a difference between not having a clean license and thinking it is acceptable for somebody who drives for a living to do so with points running in to double figures, as would have been the case here if the officer wasn't to kind as to let op off.

Frankly, if op lost his job it would be of his own doing. Most people hitting 9 points would become Mr Highwaycode for a couple of years to prevent exactly this happening.

Clearly ops observational skills are somewhat to be desired, lets hope this isn't a reflection on his driving as a whole.

Tilt

w211 wrote: »

Just a couple of observations:

The OP could be working on a self-employed basis, so could work as long as they liked, but I believe the company giving him the work could be held liable if something were to happen.

Also I doubt the OP would be doing take away food deliveries in a goods vehicle with a gross vehicle weight greater than 3.5-tons - as I think that's the limit for that vehicle to be equipped with a tachograph.

Not if he's working under EU driving rules and using a tachograph he can't.

skivenov

I'd guess they didn't follow you for long enough to measure your speed with the calibrated speedo. Most likely they weren't actually that bothered about your speed, but wanted to know what you were up to driving a van around an industrial estate at that time of night.

colino

Calibrated speedo you say? When was that speedo calibrated officer? They really don't waste their time bringing prosecutions like that unless their backed up with an unedited, in-car video.

skivenov

If you Google "VASCAR", that'll tell you how it works. All you need to check its calibration is two marks on a road a known distance apart. They can't use it unless they follow you for a set distance.

skiptalker

the 20 mph speed signs now on estates have no legal standing the road will still be 30 mph as set by the local authority the signs are advisory.

AdrianC

londonTiger wrote: »

Great! Ban someone who drives for a living. Take away his livelihood.

9 points is nothing for a delivery driver who is under a lot of pressure to deliver/collect stuff on time. Cosindering they may actually do 30-40K a year on the road and points stick for 6 years every delivery driver is bound to have a few on their record.

So, IYHO, how should it work?

Should there be a different totting-up cap for people who "drive for a living"? 18pts, 24?

Should points for different offences count differently?

Does it make a difference if the person doing 40k/yr is a delivery driver in a van or a sales director in a 7-series? How about the guy who drives the school bus?

ITYF that it's precisely why the 12pt process allows for the licence to be kept, providing the driver can argue that they would experience "exceptional hardship".

Oh, and just a subtle detail... Points only count towards totting up for three years. Four years to physically get them removed from the licence counterpart, five to tell insurance.