Stopped by Police - No Ticket, No Speed Camera, No Speed Gun?

londonTiger

arcon5 wrote: »

You'd think somebody already driving on 9 points would be ultra careful! Especially after an 28hr shift!!

Sounds like you need a good ban to calm down on our roads

Great! Ban someone who drives for a living. Take away his livelihood.

9 points is nothing for a delivery driver who is under a lot of pressure to deliver/collect stuff on time. Cosindering they may actually do 30-40K a year on the road and points stick for 6 years every delivery driver is bound to have a few on their record.

arcon5

londonTiger wrote: »

Great! Ban someone who drives for a living. Take away his livelihood.

9 points is nothing for a delivery driver who is under a lot of pressure to deliver/collect stuff on time. Cosindering they may actually do 30-40K a year on the road and points stick for 6 years every delivery driver is bound to have a few on their record.

A few, not 9. Your typical taxi driver, lorry driver, courier, etc, etc does have so many points they are verging on a ban. As a Taxi driver myself at present I have 3 points from 4 years ago and most of my co-workers have either 0 or 3 - sometimes 6 but not the norm. As soon as you exceed 6 points many councils would put a taxi driver in front of a licensing committee to assess whether they are still fit and proper to drive. On the rare occasion a driver has exceeded this, i've seen drivers having their license revoked for periods of time for minor NS30 offenses.
As a lorry driver, 6 or 9 points and you'd be struggling to find any decent work out there.


If ops livelihood is on the line, then even more reason to drive extra careful!

Frankly it's this type of attitude that sees some motorists out there managing to tot up points in double figures!

Aretnap

Iceweasel wrote: »

I'm guessing this was NOT a traffic car - or if it was they didn't have a recently calibrated speedo.

While checking the accuracy of the speedo is best practice, it's not actually a requirement, especially if the speed alleged is significantly over the limit. The court can convict on the evidence of an uncalibrated speedo, so long as it feels sure that you were exceeding the limit by some degree (Nichols v Penny).

If you didn't get the "You are going to be asked questions about (give a brief description of all the suspected offences). You are not bound to answer but if you do your answers [will be noted] [will be tape recorded and may be noted] and may be used in evidence. Do you understand?" bit

or 'This will be reported to the Procurator Fiscal with a view to prosecution ....' bit

Without the correct wording being used at the roadside...[/QUOTE]
There's no specific wording which has to be used, so long as the accused is warned that the question of prosecuting him will be considered. "You were speeding! You'll be hearing more about this!" is probably sufficient.

However if the OP came away unsure of whether it was going to be taken further or not then the warning was probably not given and he'll probably hear nothing more. However if he were to be prosecuted the onus would be on him to prove that the warning wasn't given... and the police's recollection of the conversation may differ from his own.

wba31

arcon5 wrote: »

A few, not 9. Your typical taxi driver, lorry driver, courier, etc, etc does have so many points they are verging on a ban. As a Taxi driver myself at present I have 3 points from 4 years ago and most of my co-workers have either 0 or 3 - sometimes 6 but not the norm. As soon as you exceed 6 points many councils would put a taxi driver in front of a licensing committee to assess whether they are still fit and proper to drive. On the rare occasion a driver has exceeded this, i've seen drivers having their license revoked for periods of time for minor NS30 offenses.
As a lorry driver, 6 or 9 points and you'd be struggling to find any decent work out there.


If ops livelihood is on the line, then even more reason to drive extra careful!

Frankly it's this type of attitude that sees some motorists out there managing to tot up points in double figures!

And it's your attitude of take away his licence, let him lose his job and income to the household, fall potentially into a position of problem debt that keeps people coming to my place of work for help.

It's not all black and white these things. he's admitted he didnt see the speed notice, he's been honest and frank and just wantd a bit of advice. I dont think anyone who doesnt have a clean licence, and has always had a clean licence is in a position to judge this guy.

get off your high horse, and if you're not prepared to add anything of value just keep your small minded opinions to yourself

tberry6686

were the markings on the ground green. If so this is not the limit they are advisory and the limit will be 30. We have these all over the roads around us (also in Aberdeen) and you cannot be prosecuted for ignoring them.

Was there only one officer ? If so you are safe as in Scotland they still need a second officers opinion that you were speeding.

colino

I don't think this will go anywhere, they stopped someone late at night, did a sniff and attitude test and once happy, sent you on your way with a warning.
Do take heed though, I honestly know of only one other person, who needs to be on the road to earn their crust, that is daft enough to be nudging a tot-up ban.

poppasmurf_bewdley

Doing 33 in a 30 zone when you have nine points on your licence is sheer folly. Not realising you are in a 20 zone is even more so!

It doesn't sound as though you are being 'done', so count yourself very lucky. And watch that speedo and the roadsigns if you wish to keep your licence.

GlynD

I wouldn't worry mate. I've been stopped late at night by various Scottish forces on various grounds, usually for being just in excess of the speed limit. What they're really about is making sure you're not drink driving or up to no good (there's a big drugs thing about Aberdeen). As someone else has pointed out if they were going to fine you they'd have done it on the spot with a penalty ticket or told you they were going to report you to the Procurator Fiscal. They've done neither so you're off the hook.

Watch your speed from now on, especially with 9 points on your licence. Don't be thinking that being distracted because you've just done an 18 hour shift will save you; that in fact is an admission of careless driving.

Drive safely and carefully.

Wyre

londonTiger wrote: »

Great! Ban someone who drives for a living. Take away his livelihood.

9 points is nothing for a delivery driver who is under a lot of pressure to deliver/collect stuff on time. Cosindering they may actually do 30-40K a year on the road and points stick for 6 years every delivery driver is bound to have a few on their record.

My husband (delivery driver for 25 years and 3 months) would beg to disagree with you. He has never had any points.

pogofish

murat987 wrote: »

This occured in Aberdeen.

Probably just looking you over for drink or all sorts of other activities?

I could go-on at length about some of the rather preposterous reasons I've been given for being pulled here before - To the point where I did wonder if driving capably might be a crime in itself?

Anyway, nothing ever comes of it.