Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

We still have some of those in the fridge, at 10p it looked like a no brainer but they are proving a hard sell at home, however i would be too embarrassed to take them to work.

2-3 in a bowl, warmed for 15 seconds in a microwave, covered in hot custard.

silvercar

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I may have dropped a ball at work. I got appraisal feedback from one of my direct reports this morning which said "I only realised that chewmylegoff was my manager when I was asked to fill this appraisal feedback in". To be fair, he has only been here 6 weeks and I've been on holiday for three of them, but still...

My response to that would be to ask who they thought their manager was, or did they think they were the MD?

PasturesNew

bugslet wrote: »

Mr Bugs was a fabulous cook, zag. He couldn't understand how since I like eating so much, I didn't like cooking. As I pointed out, I like driving, but it doesn't mean to say that I want to build a car!

I don't think I like cooking - I like what it can produce.... food. So it's the food to me that's the whole point.... not faffing for ages and creating washing up.

For somebody with a good sized kitchen, food processor and dishwasher it's probably a different experience as it's: lob stuff in here, tip it into there, serve and put the dishes in there.

For me it's a lot more manual, long-winded, messy etc ... producing washing up and clearing up.

For a 2-3 minute scoff at the end it's not worth it. Especially for one small portion.

I can/could cook, I just don't.

lostinrates

Generali wrote: »

Please remind me what the Italian is for mirepoix. It's completely left my brain.



We have brussels with bacon in early summer (brussels sprouts are a late spring/early summer veg here - European plants have some strange reactions to the Sydney climate). It's great with a small handful of pine nuts and/or a gentle splash of soy sauce.



I love chevre but a little goes a very long way for me. Sheep cheeses are probably my favourites.



There really is quite a lot of sugar there. Sugar is easy to digest but, AIUI at least, it messes your pancreas up and other organs after that. Again AIUI, stuff like crisps and white bread effectively turns to sugar very soon after you eat it. When I cycle seriously which is only every now and again, I have to fuel myself with accessible carbohydrates. I try to eat lots of brown fibrous stuff around that. I know a bloke who got diabetes aged ~20 which he blames on drinking loads of *****ade when he was a schoolboy/trainee with **** United FC.

I'm a pretty active bloke so have plenty of calories to be used. TBH I don't know how I'd deal with getting sick so that I couldn't cycle or walk a long way.

I moan quite a bit but I'm a very lucky man really.

I'll have to think too , about the Italian gen. It will hit me through the morning I hope. They might , in Milan and the north simply use the French though. Cannot remember.

Yep, too much sugar. Tempered by no fibre which, for me is the really scary part. IMO sugar is 'ok' in a reasonable proportion.

We've used sugar for a very long time, both in its most natural form in fruits and cereals, and in processed forms. Its a comparatively recent thing that sugar has been SUCH a huge proportion of the diet and associated problems.

There is no doubt in my mind its addictive.

The way I'm eating now I find I DO have more energy, so they are right in that, but I am still very low in stamina.......how much is fitness and health and how much is psychosomatic of course who can tell? I cannot! But I am finding my body is responded exactly how it would on paper.


Because things like my lack of metabolism still aren't 'fixed' I'm obviously still very calorie restricted to try and slow or prevent further weight loss. the nhs dietician is very opposed to the fasting for me. this is frustrating because time and time again i have come back to it being the single most useful way for me to manage my somewhat challenging circumstances, and I feel better, without doubt, on fast days. . Small amounts of 'sugary' food are unstatisfying, boring and........lack......umami. I miss earthiness, tartness, and sourness. I miss crunchiness. I've only been rigidly adhering for a week again!:o:rotfl: but its quickly sinking in that I'm not up for a lifetime of this. If this is how it is forever.....and forever is on the plate I'm not sure I'm going to plump for 'forever'. I'm prepared to give it a cous of years, although, I suspect I'll get more problems that render it impossible before then.

Because nuts and seeds are banned, and soya is best avoided I'm also back on black coffee and delicious peach tea.

My tea and my hot water with rosemary are my main treats.


A mainly sugar diet also has some unpleasant side affects which further diminish self esteem. Luckily I haven't had thrush yet, but that's more likely too.



Doing the aquafit was amazing. I cannot tell you the joy of feeling an endorphin high, something I hadn't expected from bobbing in a pool. It hit at about twenty mins and I started grinning like an idiot. I hit a wall at thirty mins :rotfl: but worked through, and then the rest was easier. The benefit on my weaker side was tremendous :j

I'm having some technical problems signing up (all the classes book up too fast for me to get in:() but I am going to pay for an annual membership (optimistically ) which lets you book a day earlier, so I have a better chance.


ATM dogs won't walk far (fair-weather hounds) bar kiwi, and the fields are too wet for any of the kind of walking I want to do for heart rate, so I'm thinking maybe kiwi and I might start wandering further a field. The girls will be furious but it would be good for kiwi.

LydiaJ

PasturesNew wrote: »

Yes, I think most people don't understand that a care home is where you go when you can't look after yourself, which is a long way from being able to go on a cruise.

Absolutely. It's like these people who are adamant that they are never going to go into a care home and will stay in their own house until they die. I sit there thinking "You have no idea how impossible that is in some circumstances. What if the police find you wandering the street in your pyjamas, carrying five pairs of shoes in a plastic carrier bag, asking everyone you meet for directions to a school that was closed fifty years ago? What if you get Parkinson's and are unable to feed, dress or toilet yourself? What if....?"

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

Cruises no, but other countries I can see the sense in.

Warm climates better for things like arthritis. Better attitude towards care and the elderly, and cheaper labour meaning more care possible.

I can think of worse things tbh.

But with fewer, if any, visits from relatives for most people.

The time/cost etc of going abroad for a visit would mean it would rarely happen.

lemonjelly

Recent chat on this thread, combined with a fitness thread on another forum I attend makes me realise that I really should try harder to improve my diet a bit, as well as exercise a bit more.:(

I'm not way out of shape, & used to walk a minimum of an hour a day.

I need motivating...

lostinrates

zagubov wrote: »

I'm in agreement with the recent upgrading of sugar as a threat to health. There's worying talk on the internet about how sucrose is better than starch because it's 50% fructose and so doesn't mess with blood glucose levels. Also that fructose-flavoured foods are better as it's sweeter per calories consumes. It's no better than glucose realy and potentially worse in some ways. As ever the media have promoted a few factoids without giving the public the depth of knowledge to see what's really safe or unsafe. Artificial sweeteners don't hold any fears for me and I'd never drink a drink sweetened with sugar.

My gastero enterologist reckons most of the patients he sees have a 'negative association with artificial sweeteners'.

I just.....like things uknsweetened and not too salty. Sweet is nice, (cakes, fruit, chocolate, rum etc .....) when countered with deeply savoury food. Salti is nice.....anchovies, feta, Parmesan .....celery, when it lifts or contrasts, not when its the background flavour.


Water, is a great drink. Its tastes subtly different. Many cannot taste it because their taste buds are fried.


Fwiw, I made tomato soup once which tasted disarmingly like Heinz tomato soup. (Which i do like) It had nothing like 4 teaspoons of sugar in it and the thing that made the difference was, iirc a pinch of cloves. I'd have mine. It probably, rationally did taste less sweet, but to my palate, because we don't drink lots of fruit juice etc, it was probably comparatively as sweet.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

But with fewer, if any, visits from relatives for most people.

The time/cost etc of going abroad for a visit would mean it would rarely happen.

There are circumstances in which I don't think it would be the worst option.

E.g. The family free.....this is likely to be DH and I.

Those with family abroad anyway......again, a situation common in our family and increasingly common.

Those who.....cannot remember anyway. As sad as it is for us, I'd choose better quality care 24/7 over me visiting occasionally. I think it would come down to projected frequency of visits and the family.

Its not going to suit every circumstance, nothing does.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

We currently get 3-4 random requests, at the drop of a hat, "mum's going to Hospital on .... would you like to go with her?" - and, as there's been so much change in her life we do like to so we can understand what the process is and be there to 'entertain' her as she doesn't sit still for hours well, but we know how to keep her focussed/entertained. And it's not a date of our choosing and a long way.

e.g. we had/did one of a series. We went as it was "the first one, so we can see what's involved" - to head off future problems if it's arduous. She could put her foot down and REFUSE to go if she had a negative experience the first time. Make it sweet the first time and you can trot her back again more easily.

On that one we picked her up, with sandwiches provided, drove her 20 miles, sat in a waiting room for an hour, saw a woman for 10 minutes, then were told to sit and wait again - we waited another 20 minutes and saw another man and were then told to come back in 1.5 hours - so got her in the car and drove her somewhere pleasant (a pub car park with a good view) to chat and eat sandwiches. We then dropped her back at the Hospital and waited until she was lead in.

We then dashed back to the pub, fitted in a quick carvery, then back to the Hospital to collect her and drive 20 miles home.

So then we knew all the waiting/faffing about - and had made it a positive experience for her..... she then refused to have the second eye done as "I can see out of it/don't need it", but we were too far away to be part of that discussion. Then 2 months later it was "I can't see", so she had to go back through the first process again to get the 2nd eye done; rather than the original appointment which would have just had her going in for the op bit.

Going is also our chance to keep on top of what her health issues are. She also had 6 appointments to freeze off a face growth, then, later, some face cancer tests etc.

There will be no wonderful daughters like that for me or fir. A retirement where life is warm, and carers are kind and the culture is respectful to old people seems not abhorrent.


If I were a busy woman working with children too......I'd find those trips hard. If my health takes a down turn again, likewise...will I be able to make those trips with my parents? Hitherto I have, for both of them, done hospital runs. Occasionally they have run me in when there is no alternative (e.g. Eye clinics). A friends took me for the colonoscopy...by choice, I'd rather have a friend than a parent:o. Tbh, I'd rather have gone by myself but they seem to want to see you discharged with someone. In the future, now I know I'd fight that one and expect to win, .