The sign of things to come? Amazing!

ivavoucher

For all in support of the squatters,.

How about taking this one step further.
For it surely is a slippery slope (the have-nots take from the haves)

You yourself must have a least one room spare. Surely its not fair you have 3 rooms when others can hardly afford one. (There are people on the streets)
You have an empty living room while you sleep, what a waste of good clean warm shelter.
When you awake one morning to find you have uninvited guests I trust you will not complain.

Next time you take a holiday I would like to see your face when you return to unwelcome guests and the following note on your front door.

LEGAL WARNING

Section 6 Criminal Law Act 1977

As amended by Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

TAKE NOTICE

THATwe live in this property, it is our home and we intend to stay here.
THAT at all times there is at least one person in this property.
THAT any entry or attempt to enter into this property without our permission is a criminal offence as any one of us who is in physical possession is opposed to entry without our permission.
THAT if you attempt to enter by violence or by threatening violence we will prosecute you. You may receive a sentence of up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5,000.
THAT if you want to get us out you will have to issue a claim in the County Court or in the High Court, or produce to us a written statement or certificate in terms of S.12A Criminal Law Act, 1977 (as inserted by Criminal Justice and Public Order Act, 1994).
THAT it is an offence under S.12A (8) Criminal Law Act 1977 (as amended) to knowingly make a false statement to obtain a written statement for the purposes of S. 12A. A person guilty of such an offence may receive a sentence of up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5,000.
Signed



The Occupiers

wifeforlife

Poppy9 wrote: »

But most youngsters don't scrimp and save, they buy now and pay tomorrow. They go to uni and don't work, just spend the loans and rack up a fortune in debt. Many of them have cars while at uni and they are not bangers. They get their first job and they are straight out to the car showroom to buy a new model. They wear designer clothes and spend a fortune of nights out. They indulge themselves. They have little concept of money, but plenty of style aspiration.

Now when young couples get married they don't want household goods etc because they have bought all that. They want money or vouchers to get a better TV or better car or exotic holiday. These poor couples that have overstretched themselves to buy houses still manage to furnish it with great style.:rolleyes:

I have to say I dont know anyone like that!

I rent (and happily I may add) as I cannot afford to buy on one wage, I'm a single parent at 25 (not by choice). As I work I do not qualify for council housing so I rent. I do not own a car, I did and when I couldnt afford it any longer I got rid of it. I didnt attend University, I have always work and have always been in employment in my current job for nearly 5 years.

My furniture is not all knew, my white goods where sold as seconds as they had bumps and scrapes. Alot of my furniture is hand me downs and second hand but I dont care it's new to me.

My younger brother although he owns, with his fiance, within the last 2 years, is the same, he has no debts, he does own a car but it's needed for his work as an electrician.

Even my BF who did go to Uni , is nothing like you have described, so I think it's wrong to assume 'most young people'

Cate

wifeforlife

ivavoucher wrote: »

For all in support of the squatters,.

How about taking this one step further.
For it surely is a slippery slope (the have-nots take from the haves)

You yourself must have a least one room spare. Surely its not fair you have 3 rooms when others can hardly afford one. (There are people on the streets)
You have an empty living room while you sleep, what a waste of good clean warm shelter.
When you awake one morning to find you have uninvited guests I trust you will not complain.

Next time you take a holiday I would like to see your face when you return to unwelcome guests and the following note on your front door.

LEGAL WARNING

Section 6 Criminal Law Act 1977

As amended by Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

TAKE NOTICE

THATwe live in this property, it is our home and we intend to stay here.
THAT at all times there is at least one person in this property.
THAT any entry or attempt to enter into this property without our permission is a criminal offence as any one of us who is in physical possession is opposed to entry without our permission.
THAT if you attempt to enter by violence or by threatening violence we will prosecute you. You may receive a sentence of up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5,000.
THAT if you want to get us out you will have to issue a claim in the County Court or in the High Court, or produce to us a written statement or certificate in terms of S.12A Criminal Law Act, 1977 (as inserted by Criminal Justice and Public Order Act, 1994).
THAT it is an offence under S.12A (8) Criminal Law Act 1977 (as amended) to knowingly make a false statement to obtain a written statement for the purposes of S. 12A. A person guilty of such an offence may receive a sentence of up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5,000.
Signed



The Occupiers

I do feel your missing the point when you say you'd like to see peoples faces when they return from holidays. The squatters mentioned in the OP are in houses that are not occupied most of the year. They are in fact properties that are used for holidays, therefore I dont think this stands.

Also I would have no problem renting a room, except my dd is 3 and I would fear for her safety and my tenancy agreement does not allow it. But if I owned my own property I would certainly consider renting a room, no probs

Cate

ivavoucher

cathy2702 wrote: »

I do feel your missing the point when you say you'd like to see peoples faces when they return from holidays. The squatters mentioned in the OP are in houses that are not occupied most of the year. They are in fact properties that are used for holidays, therefore I dont think this stands.

Also I would have no problem renting a room, except my dd is 3 and I would fear for her safety and my tenancy agreement does not allow it. But if I owned my own property I would certainly consider renting a room, no probs

Cate

Hi Cate

I understand the squatters are taking over holiday homes.

But if it was my holiday home that I had worked and paid for then I would be most upset. Just as you or I would be if somebody took advantage of our spare room/s

Do you really think if you work hard, have good fortune and buy a holiday home then it’s OK for others to take possession?

These people are not homeless they want to live where they can’t afford.
Isn’t it time you did the same? In fact lets all do the same. Thus, no need for DD to even try at school! Perhaps we should include this in the school curriculum. LOL

wifeforlife

ivavoucher wrote: »

Hi Cate

I understand the squatters are taking over holiday homes.

But if it was my holiday home that I had worked and paid for then I would be most upset. Just as you or I would be if somebody took advantage of our spare room/s

Do you really think if you work hard, have good fortune and buy a holiday home then it’s OK for others to take possession?

These people are not homeless they want to live where they can’t afford.
Isn’t it time you did the same? In fact lets all do the same. Thus, no need for DD to even try at school! Perhaps we should include this in the school curriculum. LOL

I dont live in an afflunt area, Im renting an ex council house. The town I live in Northern Ireland in notoriously bad and I live in a contetious area, the house prices are not the highest for Northern Ireland, but in my circumstances I cant afford to pay £170k for an ex council property on one wage but I've no hard feelings over it. Life is such! I will buy when they are cheaper though, no matter if it's next year, 5 years, or 15 years, I'm in no rush.

I have all my family here, my parents are down the road, my two sets of grandparents live within 10 minute walks, most of my aunts and uncles are here and I couldnt bear to live away from them, I get so much support from them and love being so close. I think most of these squatters are the same. They've lived in these areas all their lives, their family's and support networks are there, I wouldnt want to leave either.

Oh my DD will be pushed through school to keep me in the life I'm accustomed to lol :rotfl:

And yes I do have sympathy for the owners dont get me wrong, but I would feel equally aggrieved if I was a FTB from the area

Cate

Errata

Article in The Guardian mentions that 1 in 12 Londoners own a second home ! !!!!!! !!!!

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Pobby wrote: »

Hmmmmmm,I can feel the anger mounting and certainly see it in younger members of my family.Suddenly they are finding out the real truth.On one hand they can scrimp and save and maybe the day will come when they have the deposit to buy some hovel in a chav infested area because that is all they can afford or they can chose to rent in the private sector on a 6 month agreement.Not very conducive in bringing up a family methinks.

The backlash is coming!

Absolutely this government is party to the crimes committed against a generation. It seems certain newspapers and other media are finally waking up to the impending social disaster carefully constucted under NuLabour.

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Errata wrote: »

Article in The Guardian mentions that 1 in 12 Londoners own a second home ! !!!!!! !!!!

Astonishing isn't it. Remove all of the empty holiday homes sitting idle and other horded speculative property and we are over supplied.

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ivavoucher wrote: »

Hi Cate

I understand the squatters are taking over holiday homes.

But if it was my holiday home that I had worked and paid for then I would be most upset. Just as you or I would be if somebody took advantage of our spare room/s

Do you really think if you work hard, have good fortune and buy a holiday home then it’s OK for others to take possession?

These people are not homeless they want to live where they can’t afford.
Isn’t it time you did the same? In fact lets all do the same. Thus, no need for DD to even try at school! Perhaps we should include this in the school curriculum. LOL

The truth is many of these holiday homes probably haven't been paid for with real earned money but money borrowed on dubious mortgage applications. :rolleyes:

Gorgeous_George

Maybe the answer is to have a CGT amnesty.

Sell your holiday home/investment property/BTL before 2010 and pay zero CGT. All those houses coming to the market would surely see prices fall. The only losers would be those tenants who, for whatever reason, wanted to live in a BTL.

We've all heard horror stories about squatters but, IMHO, squatting in a 'permanently' empty house is probably acceptable.



GG