What planet are the Job Centre Advisers on?

Elvisia

I'll be back after the break with those all important lie detector results

seven-day-weekend

auldblerk wrote: »

Also known as numerological dyslexia .. when I was in maths at school in the 70's, the maths teacher used to lose his rag with me in front of the rest of the class .. shouting and bawling things like ..'the rest of the class understand this so why can't you !' then I would go beetroot in the face. It was unheard of then and, to be honest, it's no good trying to explain this 'condition' to anybody who doesn't have it as they will not understand.

My son, who is in his 30s, informed me a few months ago that he 'still had the same problem with numbers'. We never knew he had a problem with numbers, just thought he was not too good at Maths. :eek:

Basically, it's as you say, dyslexia with numbers. He explained it by
an example: take the number 65. Most of us will always read that as 65. He can read it as 65, 95, 62, 92, 29, 56, 59....in other words getting both numbers backwards, upside down and 'mirrored'. Sometimes he can take ages before it 'comes right' and he knows which one it is. No wonder he has always struggled with numbers if he can't see which way round they are!

Despite this, he was able to scrape his GCSE Maths at a Grade C (with extra private tuition) and also has done a couple of Numeracy courses from the Jobcentre when he had a period of unemployment.

I advise the OP to do the Numeracy course. If nothing else it will be a recent qualification to put on their CV. If they can do the ECDL as well, that will be even better. And just jump through the jObcentre's hoops.

Good luck!!

silverwhistle

Elvisia wrote: »

I'll be back after the break with those all important lie detector results

"Is there any reason why you couldn't be a chemistry lecturer?"

Hmmm, you answered 'Yes'...

Seems I didn't get an interview for the English teaching job I just went for: zero hours contract (a pool/bank situation). I had reasonable appropriate experience too, but I see the same college has a lecturer in Engineering post available, so...

Actually I'm not claiming benefits and don't need too, thank goodness, although I'm still looking for work. These threads are interesting though, as for every apologist and unempathic person like John the next moment someone like 'red devil' comes along. A plague on both their houses, I say!

red_devil

silverwhistle wrote: »

"Is there any reason why you couldn't be a chemistry lecturer?"

Hmmm, you answered 'Yes'...

Seems I didn't get an interview for the English teaching job I just went for: zero hours contract (a pool/bank situation). I had reasonable appropriate experience too, but I see the same college has a lecturer in Engineering post available, so...

Actually I'm not claiming benefits and don't need too, thank goodness, although I'm still looking for work. These threads are interesting though, as for every apologist and unempathic person like John the next moment someone like 'red devil' comes along. A plague on both their houses, I say!

What do you mean someone like red devil comes along. Second thoughts dont bother im not bothered what you think. I presume you are being hostile anyway.

John1993_2

melysion wrote: »

Just remember you could be facing redundancy yourself one day. Not one single person is immune. Would do you good actually

Hmm, that's quite a strange post.

I was made redundant back when the big crash happened, so know full well how it works. My area of banking disappeared pretty much in a puff of smoke in 2007, and so I had to decide to either take a more junior job immediately, or to re-train to some extent, and wait until I found another senior job in a slightly different field.

Because I chose the second route, I didn't think it fair to claim benefits, so lived off my redundancy package and savings until I started back.

So, please be careful making assumptions, they will often be wrong, and it takes away from any point that you hoped to make with them.

It's unfortunate that you think that someone pledging personal responsibility is "unpleasant", but I understand that it's pretty unpopular nowadays to tell people that they would be far better off working out for themselves how to get back on their feet. Dependency of any sort is corrosive to self-worth, and we do people no favours by encouraging them to let others look after them if there's any other choice.

John1993_2

red_devil wrote: »

I have the details now of who to complain too. I am going to kick up a right stink surely you dont think its right they can be careless with peoples data and hand someone elses details and Nat ins to me?

No, but it was probably a genuine mistake by a harassed worker. I get the impression that you'd not be happy were you to be crucified over a similar mistake on your part.

What actual harm has accrued to you that you want to be so vindictive?

auldblerk

John1993 wrote: »

Because I chose the second route, I didn't think it fair to claim benefits, so lived off my redundancy package and savings until I started back.

I was going to do that and was advised not to, it was explained to me that it would be wiser to sign on to keep topping up the N.I. contributions already generated.

red_devil

John1993 wrote: »

Hmm, that's quite a strange post.

I was made redundant back when the big crash happened, so know full well how it works. My area of banking disappeared pretty much in a puff of smoke in 2007, and so I had to decide to either take a more junior job immediately, or to re-train to some extent, and wait until I found another senior job in a slightly different field.

Because I chose the second route, I didn't think it fair to claim benefits, so lived off my redundancy package and savings until I started back.

So, please be careful making assumptions, they will often be wrong, and it takes away from any point that you hoped to make with them.

It's unfortunate that you think that someone pledging personal responsibility is "unpleasant", but I understand that it's pretty unpopular nowadays to tell people that they would be far better off working out for themselves how to get back on their feet. Dependency of any sort is corrosive to self-worth, and we do people no favours by encouraging them to let others look after them if there's any other choice.

You make assumptions about people. Ive never understood why your on these threads your not unemployed.

red_devil

John1993 wrote: »

No, but it was probably a genuine mistake by a harassed worker. I get the impression that you'd not be happy were you to be crucified over a similar mistake on your part.

What actual harm has accrued to you that you want to be so vindictive?

Oh so its ok to breach the data protection act cos your busy is it, i would say incompetent and they should be reported. Might make them concentrate abit. Its serious giving out peoples information. How would you like it if i was given your personal details and defrauded you.;)

melysion

John1993 wrote: »

Hmm, that's quite a strange post.

I was made redundant back when the big crash happened, so know full well how it works. My area of banking disappeared pretty much in a puff of smoke in 2007, and so I had to decide to either take a more junior job immediately, or to re-train to some extent, and wait until I found another senior job in a slightly different field.

Because I chose the second route, I didn't think it fair to claim benefits, so lived off my redundancy package and savings until I started back.

So, please be careful making assumptions, they will often be wrong, and it takes away from any point that you hoped to make with them.

It's unfortunate that you think that someone pledging personal responsibility is "unpleasant", but I understand that it's pretty unpopular nowadays to tell people that they would be far better off working out for themselves how to get back on their feet. Dependency of any sort is corrosive to self-worth, and we do people no favours by encouraging them to let others look after them if there's any other choice.

There's nothing strange about it. I have sat and read many of your posts and they are undeniably patronising and sneering towards the unemployed.

I am sure you mean well - and I suspect I even agree woth you (hell would have to freeze over before I claim benefits) - but your delivery stinks and puts peoples back up no end.

If you tone down the sneery attitude a tad you might find people listen to you properly