PCM / Newlyn letter

Terron1

I live in a flat with an allocated parking space.
The management company have employed PCM to stop strangers from using our car park - particularly the workers in the office block across the road.
In Juky this year PCM changed the permits (at the management company's request. I missed the AGM where this was decided as I was on holiday and did not notice the letter that was put in my mailbox - I usually throw unstamped letters away as junk mail.
On the Friday the permits changed I went down to my car and found a notice on the window Several other cars had such notices.
I tried to get in touch with PCM that day but was not able to do so.
They put anothernotice on my car the following morning.
I then got in touch with PCM and got then to send me new permits and a number to display. I told them that I would not be paying the notices.
I had researched them online and found advice that they were unenforceable and should be ignored.

I have just received two letters from Newlyn Debt Collection asking for £154 each.

I see that the advice has changed - in October.?
Does that apply to notices issued before October?
What should I do next?

Umkomaas

Advice changed at the start of this year.

You need to speak with your management company; they can get this cancelled - they employed the PPC, so get them to sort it out for you. Ask other residents how they sorted out the tickets they received.

There is a very good thread at the top of the forum which explains all issues re parking charges, including how to deal with the likes of Newlyn. Here it is:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

Coupon-mad

I see that the advice has changed - in October.?

The law changed (in some ways) Oct 2012 over a year ago, you should NOT have ignored this but the sticky thread explains all I hope.

Terron1

I contacted the management company but nthey are not interested and just told me to contact PCM

Coupon-mad

OK so read the sticky thread as already advised, and find out what else you can do about the debt collectors then, and how you can check if your Notices are non-compliant and how to complain about them to the BPA if not. Trouble is you've admitted who was driving as well haven't you but talking about 'my permit/I parked' in your response earlier on. Makes it easier for them.

You are too late to appeal to POPLA now but don't fold and pay this scam. Did PCM give you a POPLA code for each one, when they rejected your appeals? If not you can complain to the BPA but TBH this is already covered on the sticky threads at the top.

You searched wrongly and read old advice, when on any forum you are only ever ONE click away from the current threads. Even when you might Google & find, say, a 2010 thread you are only ever a click away from the new advice on ANY forum. So near yet so far when you read old stuff and sadly never thought to check if it was still current, what a missed chance to cancel this harassment, especially if you did get POPLA codes from PCM when rejected, and ignored them.

spacey2012

Are you a tenant or Leaseholder ?

Terron1

No one was driving - it was parked in my parking space overnight, with the old permit in the windscreen - which was valid at the time it was parked the first time.
Anyway I spoke to PCM when I asked for new permits.

I am the leaseholder - and thus I get a vote in the management company, though we employ another company to do the actual management. I missed the last AGM (in June) as I was on holiday.

Terron1

I have written a letter to Newlyn based on one in this forum.

Coupon-mad

Yep but did PCM give you POPLA codes when they rejected your appeals, or not? When?

Terron1

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Yep but did PCM give you POPLA codes when they rejected your appeals, or not? When?

I didn't make an appeal. I phoned them about getting new permits, and told them I would be igoring the notices from before then.

Coupon-mad

You really missed a trick then. Next time!

Out of interest, and it is relevant to this situation and possibly officially complaining & getting these cancelled, did PCM send you a Letter/Notice to Keeper (a postal 'PCN', 'Formal Demand', whatever) after the windscreen tickets? It would have been the first letter in each case, between day 29 and day 56 after the parking event.