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NS&I 5 year index linked saving certs 2011 issue - half way point!

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  • polymaff
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    edited 16 September 2015 at 3:40PM
    talexuser wrote: »
    Are we to assume that offering RPI+0.05% indicates the government expects inflation to take off in future years after the QE experiment?

    The low coupon (and the withdrawal of the product from the marketplace) reflects NS&I's reduced borrowing targets*. Inflation-linked bonds have tended to be subsidised products - and with the politically-designed 65+ bonds soaking up such subsidy as is acceptable to HMG (the grey vote factor) - Inflation-linked Certs can't have been NS&I's favoured product for quite a while.

    I doubt that there is any forward planning of the sort you suggest. :)

    *Further evidence: NS&I have just announced the slashing of their Direct Isa rate by one sixth. (1.5% to 1.25%)
  • DRS1
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    Has anyone else had a survey asking if they would be interested in certificates linked to CPI?
  • gadgetmind
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    DRS1 wrote: »
    Has anyone else had a survey asking if they would be interested in certificates linked to CPI?

    How about some linked to HPI? :D
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • polymaff
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    DRS1 wrote: »
    Has anyone else had a survey asking if they would be interested in certificates linked to CPI?

    But which CPI? The current CPI is being re-based (always a cover for some sleight-of-hand) and modified soon, so which CPI indeed. :)

    I note that the three indicies being compared in this month's ONS CPI data release are the CPIH, the CPI and the OOH - the last-named having a very different profile over the last ten years.

    Lies, damned lies and statistics!
  • lisyloo
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    Are we to assume that offering RPI+0.05% indicates the government expects inflation to take off in future years after the QE experiment?

    I don't think that would be a safe assumption.
    I think it's safe to assume they made them less attractive as they wanted to issue fewer.
  • talexuser
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    I think it's safe to assume they made them less attractive as they wanted to issue fewer.

    Probably saved up enough instead for the pensioner bonds to win the election :)
    We shall see how inflation pans out though.
  • no change on updated calc with the latest inflation figures
  • polymaff
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    edited 14 October 2015 at 12:38PM
    no change on updated calc with the latest inflation figures

    There having been quite a significant fall in the 12-monthly RPI, a £15k bond on the OP's timescale, using NS&I's projection assumptions, has dropped from a final redemption of £17,185.13 to £17,132.35 :(
  • gadgetmind
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    I'm happy to keep on holding our bonds until maturity (May '16) but we now have a tiny interest only offset mortgage, and the interest rate on this will rise with base rates (which are loosely related to inflation) so would (effectively!) get a 2.29% return now by moving the money. I'll decide come May.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • I am still holding £5k in this issue which matures next May. I will be cashing it in then and have just cashed in a further £5k which was in a 3 year issue rolled over in 2013. I put it towards a car instead!
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