Boiler Replacement

Road_Hog

Freecall wrote: »

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/

No mention of DIY or being ‘open to wide interpretation’ or Mike the Boilerman for that matter.

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Do you want to see where your link falls over?

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/faqownerocc.htm

"Anyone employed to work on gas appliances in domestic"premises must be a Gas Safe registered engineer

Do you see that word employed?

Freecall

Road_Hog wrote: »

Do you want to see where your link falls over?

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/faqownerocc.htm

"Anyone employed to work on gas appliances in domestic"premises must be a Gas Safe registered engineer

Do you see that word employed?

I think that you may be finding things that you can interpret to suit your objective. Lawyers use the word 'employed' to mean 'actively do something' as with employing a technique or method. It has nothing to do with employee/employer relationships but I expect you know that.

The HSE do however make it completely clear in the following plain English statement

'It is illegal for an unregistered person to carry out work on any domestic gas appliance.

You can check this by contacting the Gas Safe Register link to external website online or by calling them on 0800 408 5500.'

http://www.hse.gov.uk/toolbox/gas.htm

I am only bothering to correct you in this detail because things stay on the web forever and I don't want some young soul finding your misinformation in years to come and thinking that they can work on gas if they want to without understanding that they could face prosecution if they do so.

DRP

dimbo61 wrote: »

Sorry Road Hog but putting in anything but a combi boiler would DEVALUE the property when you come to sell.
£3K sounds a good price for the job BUT if you ring BG I am sure they will charge TWICE the price

Tbf to British gas, I had an old combi replaced with a condensing unit plus 2 new radiators back in February. I assumed BG would be extortionate but quotes from two local firms and BG were only 2 or 3 hundred apart (3000 something). BG was the higher but they included their homecare for a year and of course the price is fixed and they ensured it was all done in a day (other firms said they would come back next day to do the rads), something not to be sniffed at with a very young baby in the house.

Road_Hog

Freecall wrote: »

I think that you may be finding things that you can interpret to suit your objective. Lawyers use the word 'employed' to mean 'actively do something' as with employing a technique or method. It has nothing to do with employee/employer relationships but I expect you know that.

The HSE do however make it completely clear in the following plain English statement

'It is illegal for an unregistered person to carry out work on any domestic gas appliance.

You can check this by contacting the Gas Safe Register link to external website online or by calling them on 0800 408 5500.'

http://www.hse.gov.uk/toolbox/gas.htm

I am only bothering to correct you in this detail because things stay on the web forever and I don't want some young soul finding your misinformation in years to come and thinking that they can work on gas if they want to without understanding that they could face prosecution if they do so.

Rubbish. It quite clearly states employed, nothing about DIY.


http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/faqownerocc.htm

wabbitpoo

I'm confused - what part of

It is illegal for an unregistered person to carry out work on any domestic gas appliance

mentionsemployed or DIY at all?

Kynthia

wabbitpoo wrote: »

I'm confused - what part of

It is illegal for an unregistered person to carry out work on any domestic gas appliance

mentionsemployed or DIY at all?

Can you link where that comment is from so we can have context? I've looked at the HSE website and agree that in the homeowner section it does not prohibit owners and DIYers doing the work themselves, as it only says when employing/contracting someone to do work they must be registered. However I wouldn't recommend most people work on gas appliances themselves.

wabbitpoo

Its in the link that Freecall posted above

kwmlondon

Road_Hog wrote: »

You're missing the point, a combi doesn't cover the point about condensing boilers.

Nor does it cover the longevity of boilers. I've been in my current property for 12 years and never had the boiler serviced. Knowing the previous owner, he probably never had it serviced either.

It's an old boiler, it does the job, no servicing required and quids in. It's like my old Dyson from 20 years ago, change the odd part and it keeps on going.

A boiler certainly doesn't devalue a house, for Christ's sake, not many properties sell for under £200K these days, who is going to worry about a boiler. Besides, if you have a combi boiler, where can you air the clothes if you don't have a tank.

Air the clothes? After you've scrubbed them on your washboard and wrung them out with a mangle! It's 2013 for goodness sake!

Road_Hog

kwmlondon wrote: »

Air the clothes? After you've scrubbed them on your washboard and wrung them out with a mangle! It's 2013 for goodness sake!

Hey listen don't knock it, if you need an item dried quickly, then an airing cupboard is the bees knees. It also helps in my house, because all water is direct mains fed, no loft tank (apart from rads), so in the winter a lagged tank is better than a combi with direct mains.

Plus, did I mention that I get to air the clothes?

kwmlondon

Road_Hog wrote: »

Hey listen don't knock it, if you need an item dried quickly, then an airing cupboard is the bees knees. It also helps in my house, because all water is direct mains fed, no loft tank (apart from rads), so in the winter a lagged tank is better than a combi with direct mains.

Plus, did I mention that I get to air the clothes?

I am still going to picture this going on in a house with a gramophone in the drawing room and a Morris Oxford outside.

And in my mind a lagged tank is an armored car full of hardened criminals.