bit of help required on birth deception

sassyblue

j.e.j. wrote: »

She's lied on the birth certificate. I don't know, but I would imagine that's akin to, say, lying on the electoral register.

I'm sure this isn't the first time this has ever happened (nor will it be the last..) but OP needs to take legal advice and decide whether he still wants to be a parent to the other man's twins.

You're right about the second bit, because right now the OP is the one responsible for maintenance for the children.

j.e.j.

I would think the 2 men would have to get DNA/paternity tests done, if they haven't already, so that it can be proven legally who the father is. A solicitor or possibly the citizens advice would be able to advise where OP should take it from there. I suppose a lot of it depends on whether OP and the woman are still together and whether he still wants to have parental responsibility for the twins. If he doesn't want to pay to bring up another mans kids (which would be entirely understandable) the other man should be made to pay through the CSA.

The way some women behave just makes me so :mad:

Apparently it's estimated that between 5 and 20% of kids have the wrong 'father' on their birth certificate :eek:

onlyroz

sassyblue wrote: »

It is illegal to knowingly put the non bio father on the birth certificate (a legal document) so the mother committed fraud, whether she would get charged for it is another matter.

Not in the circumstances I described.

peachyprice

tinkerbell28 wrote: »

People are presuming they're married. In which case they can put the husband on the certificate legally and in cases brought to court, the husband has still been seen as the Dad and the child a product of the marriage.

Nope, from the OP I'm assuming they're not married.

dobbi wrote: »

Living with partner & am registered as the father to twins,

tinkerbell28

onlyroz wrote: »

Not in the circumstances I described.

Yes but that was for a married couple. I too presume the use of the word "partner" means he's not. So it's not relevant in that context.

As a child born in marriage is automatically in law presumed to be the husbands, a child of the marriage, so the husband can be registered regardless.

A bit out of date of you ask me considering divorce rates nowadays...

meritaten

my husbands grandmother registered her son as her husbands. although it was during WW1 and she hadn't seen her H for three years and presumed him dead. on the birth cert there seems to have been a statutory declaration later removing him as the father. but there doesn't seem to be any legal consequences. I think it depends on whether there is any intent to 'defraud'.

izoomzoom

All I can say, is try to think of the innocent children in all of thing.

So very very sad.

Pollycat

dobbi wrote: »

Living with partner & am registered as the father to twins, also have passports for both, using the birth certificates as proof.

Have now discovered that I am not the father of the twins, and that partner knew about this prior to birth.

Besides breaking my heart, has any law been broken by the ex or her lover, who is also involved in the deception. Scotland.

cheers in advance

OP - just curious:

What are you hoping to achieve if your partner and this guy have broken a law?

Are you intending to stay with your partner?
Are you intending to try to recover what you've paid so far for the twins that your partner now says aren't yours?
Are you 100% sure that the twins aren't yours?
You say that your partner knew this before the birth - but how did she know?
The dates must have added up to you otherwise you would have been suspicious during the pregnancy.

Mojisola

dobbi wrote: »

Living with partner & am registered as the father to twins, also have passports for both, using the birth certificates as proof.

Have now discovered that I am not the father of the twins, and that partner knew about this prior to birth.

Besides breaking my heart, has any law been broken by the ex or her lover, who is also involved in the deception. Scotland.

Have you had dna tests done? If not and you want to be certain about the twins paternity, that's the next step.

If it is confirmed that the other man is the father, what do you want to happen? As things stand, you are their legal father and can be part of their lives. If they were born after May 2006, you have full parental rights.

If the tests prove that you are not their father and you have your name removed from their birth certificates, you will no rights at all. Will you want to walk away from them and have no say in how their lives develop?

If your relationship with their mother is breaking up, at present she could claim child support from you. Would you want to pay out for her to bring up children who aren't yours genetically but who see you as their Dad?

This is from a few years ago but discusses the complications around the issue - http://jme.bmj.com/content/33/8/475.full

I think it's a despicable thing for a woman to do - for the effect it has on the man and the children.

Pollycat

Mojisola wrote: »

I think it's a despicable thing for a woman to do - for the effect it has on the man and the children.

I agree, but it's very common on Jeremy Kyle. Apparently. :cool: