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35 hours a week for Jobsearch, not possible?
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Judging from your penultimate and final paragraph, your real mission is to be employed by someone else as you haven't countenanced any self-employment thoughts.
I was fortunate when young to be advised on the ways of the world by a wise old sage. He informed me that an employee is both a wage and a PAYE slave and are generally Britain's biggest mugs as it is them who choose to carry the heaviest tax burden of UK Plc upon their shoulders.0 -
Chester666666 wrote: »Probably because it's too risky to be self-employed
And working for someone else isn't risky?! There's a risk you might not get paid, or might not continue to have a job, even when you work for someone else.Chester666666 wrote: »It's terrible isn't it that unemployed people think that a wage is fair dues for having a job, that a wage that people can be happy with is fair as opposed to a gamble that may not work and leaves you worse off.
Plus who said all unemployed are miserable?
What's not so good is that at least some of the long term unemployed are happy to sit around moaning that no one else will give them a job, not to mention living off other people's efforts, instead of investing some effort in working for themselves. Or even doing jobs that they "don't feel will suit them". Half the world probably works in jobs that "don't suit" them.0 -
Christ is this thread still going? Think I should get some popcorn in and settle down for the long haul....
The question at the start was....is it possible to spend 35 hours per week job searching?
Answer...yes it most certainly is, I am doing it at the moment in-between keeping the house tidy. I've been out of work almost a fortnight and in that time have secured 3 interviews - one being tomorrow, the other two next week - spruced up my CV, applied for countless jobs online, via old fashioned snail mail, and sent out speculative applications to local firms. One of whom was impressed enough with my CV to circulate it amongst their colleagues.
I hate being out of work, after all I have bills to pay and OH can't support me long term, I have got off my !!!! and made it my mission to find work, any paid work at all
Wow, you haven't let the grass grow under your feet! Good on you. I hope you get something soon.0 -
BurnleyBob wrote: »Judging from your penultimate and final paragraph, your real mission is to be employed by someone else as you haven't countenanced any self-employment thoughts.
I was fortunate when young to be advised on the ways of the world by a wise old sage. He informed me that an employee is both a wage and a PAYE slave and are generally Britain's biggest mugs as it is them who choose to carry the heaviest tax burden of UK Plc upon their shoulders.
Ah, I wish I had had a wise old owl warning me off the PAYE slave route all those years ago.
I have had a couple of periods out of work, not all that long. I was going for any job that came up. I remember going for a job at a factory - not that I had any of the qualifications required to work on a factory floor, and the owner - who did need staff - not employing me because I "didn't speak any of the languages used on the shop floor (Serbo-croat, Macedonian, an bit of Greek), so would therefore be a safety hazard. So much for being able to speak to local language...
If I knew then what I do now!0 -
Christ is this thread still going? Think I should get some popcorn in and settle down for the long haul....
The question at the start was....is it possible to spend 35 hours per week job searching?
Answer...yes it most certainly is, I am doing it at the moment in-between keeping the house tidy. I've been out of work almost a fortnight and in that time have secured 3 interviews - one being tomorrow, the other two next week - spruced up my CV, applied for countless jobs online, via old fashioned snail mail, and sent out speculative applications to local firms. One of whom was impressed enough with my CV to circulate it amongst their colleagues.
I hate being out of work, after all I have bills to pay and OH can't support me long term, I have got off my !!!! and made it my mission to find work, any paid work at all
Wow, this is scary stuff :eek: I could have wrote the same practically word for word right down to the same amount of time out of work (a fortnight) except I don't have a OH.
My local Jobcentre staff have been fantastic and very supportive and haven't judged me because of the redundancy.
The plan is to keep trying / looking / begging for work for another fortnight then start looking into the self-employed thing.0 -
And working for someone else isn't risky?! There's a risk you might not get paid, or might not continue to have a job, even when you work for someone else.
What's not so good is that at least some of the long term unemployed are happy to sit around moaning that no one else will give them a job, not to mention living off other people's efforts, instead of investing some effort in working for themselves. Or even doing jobs that they "don't feel will suit them". Half the world probably works in jobs that "don't suit" them.
Not paying isn't legal
You miss the point a lot as what suits can vary widely0 -
Yes, 915,000 of them at the last count, unemployed for over a year. Cameron likes to put positive spin on the unemployment figures, saying the total count is going down, but at the same time, the long term unemployed numbers march ever onwards and upwards.
I realise some people claim not to have the skills to be self employed, but this seems to me just to be an excuse. How do they know what skills they have until they try?
This is the sort of JOhn Galt rubbish spewed by privileged cosetted elitist toffs who have benefitted from way more than any single jobseeker will EVER know. You have not the first clue what you are talking about if you seriously think you can just reduce starting a successful business (which includes managing to avoid getting into debt for starters) to a statement as offensive, stupid, and trite as "just an excuse".
This sort of garbage is beneath anyone and, like you, should be treated with utter contempt. You are an idiot and a very ignorant insulting and stupid one at that. Do yourself, and the rest of the world, a favour and go away.0 -
strangeotron wrote: »"just an excuse"?
This is the sort of JOhn Galt rubbish spewed by privileged cosetted elitist toffs who have benefitted from way more than any single jobseeker will EVER know. You have not the first clue what you are talking about if you seriously think you can just reduce starting a successful business (which includes managing to avoid getting into debt for starters) to a statement as offensive, stupid, and trite as "just an excuse".
This sort of garbage is beneath anyone and, like you, should be treated with utter contempt. You are an idiot and a very ignorant insulting and stupid one at that. Do yourself, and the rest of the world, a favour and go away.
Knocking on doors asking to clean windows is beyond your skillset? Be careful who you call stupid, son.0 -
Knocking on doors asking to clean windows is beyond your skillset? Be careful who you call stupid, son.
He's already called you stupid with much consideration. Seems like there's many people on these forums who think you're by definition, stupid, and abusive. Is there a reason for that?0 -
Just looked at John Galt's bio and I would consider him iconic.
I certainly wouldn't consider him "rubbish".
This reminds me of the get rich mantra espoused by Herbalife, where many dolies made a fortune from nothing so it can be done.
But having said that, wealthy people DO have advantages that are not easily overcome by the underprivileged many.0
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