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  • Mr_Ted
    Mr_Ted Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    First step. You need to contact a Heating engineer! a plumber/gas fitter are not the same! A heating engineer will be equipped with all the test equipment and knowledge to diagnose and rectify boiler faults without any guess work! I have seen this many times and has cost the consumer a fortune in guess work and parts been replaced that are not needed!
    Contact a Heating engineer and describe the fault. He will normally tell you the possible causes and quote accordingly! Trying to save money will eventually cost more!

    ;) SORRY INCORRECT ;)

    The only people allowed to work on GAS APPLIANCES, be they heating engineers, plumbers or gas fitters, are those qualified on the relevant modules as REGISTERED GAS INSTALLERS with GAS SAFE :)
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  • JACKHANDYMAN
    JACKHANDYMAN Posts: 42 Forumite
    edited 12 November 2013 at 10:47PM
    A Heating engineer is normally gas safe registered anyway, to work on any gas boiler. however just to confirm my post!
    Employ a Fully registered gas safe Heating engineer who can repair your boiler! they will have the experience and equipment to diagnose and repair the fault! Don't employ a plumber/gas installer, as they have no experience of repairing boilers. Gas boilers are fitted with several safety devices and therefore need an experienced engineer to ensure they are repaired correctly. Repairing Gas boilers is a specialized role and should not be assumed that anyone who holds a gas safe certificate is experienced enough to do the job!
  • Mr_Ted
    Mr_Ted Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    A Heating engineer is normally gas safe registered anyway, to work on any gas boiler. however just to confirm my post!
    Employ a Fully registered gas safe Heating engineer who can repair your boiler! they will have the experience and equipment to diagnose and repair the fault! Don't employ a plumber/gas installer, as they have no experience of repairing boilers. Gas boilers are fitted with several safety devices and therefore need an experienced engineer to ensure they are repaired correctly. Repairing Gas boilers is a specialized role and should not be assumed that anyone who holds a gas safe certificate is experienced enough to do the job!

    SORRY WRONG AGAIN ;)

    No matter who it is, and MOST proper Gas Fitters cut their teeth on appliances, If they have the correct Gas Safe Module, then they SHOULD be able to do the job on the appliances they have trained for to achieve THAT module as a qualification :)

    Its not JUST about being Gas Safe registered, it's about the MODULE they are registered as qualified to work under :)

    Unfortunately in the real world TOO MANY have the modules, but still CANT do the job :D
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  • Thank you, for pointing out the difference between a Gas engineer having the correct training in modules in order to carry out boiler repairs however from (My) experience. I personally would get the right person for the job!:o
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Our boiler packed up ...... Husband got the bloke who installed the new boiler and GCH in our rental property in
    You rent. Boiler's broken. Call the letting agents/landlord to get it fixed. You've done nothing wrong. Phone them. It's their problem now.

    Or do you mean you are the landlord?
  • Mr_Ted
    Mr_Ted Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    Thank you, for pointing out the difference between a Gas engineer having the correct training in modules in order to carry out boiler repairs however from (My) experience. I personally would get the right person for the job!:o

    ;)Legally there is ONLY ONE "right person for the job" and that is a Gas Safe Registered RGi WITH the Right Modules for the job required of him on his registration card, no IF's, no BUTS ;)

    And unless you know of his quality of work, you pays yer money and you takes yer chances ;)

    Also from (MY) experience in (MY) day a Heating Engineer did commercial installations, a plumber did plumbing and drainage, and a Gasfitter was the only ones that were actually trained to work on Gas appliances, although with the lack of regulation, many others did, and Gasfitters had to go and rectify the problems :)
    And gas fitters could also do plumbing and heating installs :p
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  • This person must get some kind of satisfaction from degrading genuine comments made on this site. It is obvious he/she is so clever! they are oblivious as to what the original post was all about, But willing to degrade any posts made to help, If we all made a point of saying you are wrong and wrong again! This site would be pointless! We offer our our own personal experiences in order to help others. It's up to viewers to decide who is right or wrong and not for this person to decide otherwise!
  • This person must get some kind of satisfaction from degrading genuine comments made on this site. It is obvious he/she is so clever! they are oblivious as to what the original post was all about, But willing to degrade any posts made to help, If we all made a point of saying you are wrong and wrong again! This site would be pointless! We offer our our own personal experiences in order to help others. It's up to viewers to decide who is right or wrong and not for this person to decide otherwise!

    Welcome to the world that is Mr T :D
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • Mr_Ted
    Mr_Ted Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    This person must get some kind of satisfaction from degrading genuine comments made on this site.

    ;) Its no satisfaction, just that offering genuine comments that are misleading will cause more problems for the OP than they resolve.
    Being genuine does not immediately make them RIGHT!
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    It is obvious he/she is so clever!

    ;) I don't pretend to be clever, BUT I do know the job and the legalities that have to be applied to the job, what you have offered, to someone who probably has no comprehension of the legalities of who to employ, is an open invitation for cowboys to operate!
    wrote:
    they are oblivious as to what the original post was all about,

    ;) I am not oblivious to the original post, however, THAT has to be resolved by employing the RIGHT person with the RIGHT experience, and the RIGHT qualifications, legally, to carryout the work!
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    But willing to degrade any posts

    ;) The only degradation comes to the person who does not know the legalities as to WHO should be the person to fix the problem!
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    made to help,

    ;) It does NOT help to employ the WRONG person!

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    If we all made a point of saying you are wrong and wrong again!

    ;) So what you are saying is that you are right? This is a Forum, and as such there are people who offer information of all kinds, some are right some are wrong, some are from laymen and some are from people IN the Trade, and as such some things will always be open to debate!
    The OP has to decide!
    BUT, when it comes to SAFETY, it would be wrong for someone who DOES know, to not say what is CORRECT!
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    This site would be pointless!

    ;) To a degree it is, if the OP does not have the correct information relevant to their particular problem and take advice from someone that give incorrect information!
    AND there IS LOTS of misinformation given by people who DON'T really know what they are talking about on this forum, it can be DANGEROUS :mad:
    wrote:
    We offer our our own personal experiences in order to help others. It's up to viewers to decide who is right or wrong and not for this person to decide otherwise!

    ;) That does not mean that your own personal experiences were carried out in compliance to legislation, or that the person you have experience of was a cowboy, even if they did a good job, or that an OP will employ someone who may TOTALLY botch the job and create or cause an incident, based on misinformation?
    It also has to be considered that what was your experience at sometime may not be possible NOW due to changes in legislation :)

    :rotfl: Ultimately it is ALWAYS the OP who decides what is right for them, do you think I go round to anyone with an ultimatum :rotfl:
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  • If you read my original post! It simply states to contact a Heating engineer!
    I have made no attempt to misguide anyone, Neither have i advised anyone to use a non-qualified person! for which you are now trying to insinuate!
    That fact that i am fully aware of the legalities and consequences of using non-experienced or qualified persons in my first and later comments, is very apparent, and therefore cannot understand just what you are trying to achieve, other than degrading my post.
    There is no doubt that some have found our arguments amusing to read! and as you have no idea of my background, you cannot assume i would offer advice without having any sort of experience in the matters for which i would never do!
    Never judge without knowing! and remember! It's nice to be important! but more important to be nice!
    If you want me to say i am wrong! well you will waiting a long time!!
    :beer:
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