accident

OddballJamie

Stooby2 wrote: »

You both really cannot state that as fact. The OP's son may have pulled out slowly, giving the other driver plenty of time to stop, but the other driver was completely distracted and didn't see the car in his path until too late. There's a 101 different scenarios where blame could lie either way. Unless you know the facts, you are just generalising.

If the OPs son has problems with pulling out in a timely fashion then he should wait for a larger gap.

Maybe a copy of the Highway Code would make a useful Christmas gift.

"Take extra care at junctions. You should look all around before emerging. Do not cross or join a road until there is a gap large enough for you to do so safely."

prowla

It is up to the person pulling out to make sure that it is safe to do so.
It doesn't really matter whether the other driver was distracted, or whatever really.
Give Way means that.

So I would not try and argue the point over that.

However, the driver of the other car claiming for damaged that was not the result of this accident is fraud.

I would be looking to see whether that really was, or not.

And you would think that the insurance companies would be interested in weeding out scammers.

vaio

I'd be looking for a random local punto with a measuring tape & camera in hand.

Folding the corner of the wing/bonnet back like that would take considerable force and on the face of it it seems inconceivable that the red car did that damage (and that's before you consider the lack of bits of broken glass/plastic at the scene)

There *looks* to be a slight scuff on the punto bumper which would tie up with the scuff on the red car but to me it looks like the Punto wing/bonnet/light would be much higher and into the apparently undamaged steel/light area on the red car.

I'd be suspecting a deliberate set up similar to http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23717575

scheming_gypsy

ariba10 wrote: »

Anyone already on the road usually has the right of way.

The damage to the both cars is on the Offside !

How do they explain that?

quite simple. Car A turns right out of a junction and Car B clips its back end. Driver B's front end catches driver A's rear end.


Like Viao says.. there should be glass at the scene if it had smashed there.

Stooby2

prowla wrote:

It is up to the person pulling out to make sure that it is safe to do so.
It doesn't really matter whether the other driver was distracted, or whatever really.
Give Way means that.

So I would not try and argue the point over that.

So, if you pull out across a give way line, stop across the road waiting for traffic from your left to pass, and I come around the corner and crash into the side of you, for whatever reason, that's your fault?

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You shouldn't be pulling into the road, if it means you will be obstructing traffic on the main road.

Stooby2

But people do, regularly and regardless. But the question stands.

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People do all sorts of things they shouldn't, and usually get away with it, but when it goes pear shaped, they are still the ones who are responsible.

"I've done it before and didn't cause an accident" is not a defence.

Hintza

Bit like the time I clipped someone's bumper at box junction at walking pace and they managed to push through a whiplash claim.

I huffed and puffed a lot to my insurer but they decided to pay out. Regardless you still have a claim to report for 5 years.

OddballJamie

vaio wrote: »

Folding the corner of the wing/bonnet back like that would take considerable force and on the face of it it seems inconceivable that the red car did that damage (and that's before you consider the lack of bits of broken glass/plastic at the scene)

Click the image, then click the + at the bottom. You can clearly see broken glass from the light inside the fitting.

There's also nothing to say the Punto isn't parked somewhere safer a few yards from the junction the OPs son pulled out from.