They want loads of money for nothing ?parking Eye

Trebor16

I am wondering how a debt collector based in Germany could take action in a German court based on an alleged debt in the UK?

GermanKeeper

So my car is registered in Germany, and I assume that the car of Mr RK is registered in Germany too (by the argument @of zzzLazyDaisy).

To get the data of the registered keeper EPC (on behalf of PE) has to pay 4,10 Euro to the Kraftfahrtbundesamt (KBA) in Flensburg, the German analogous of the DVLA. No private company has online access to these data, but it is not difficult to get these data from the KBA.

What has to be said: EPC started to claim an amount in Euro. They did not give me any information about the original amount in Pound Sterling. So if contract law applies, then this of course totally absurd.
No civil court will force you to pay in Euro, if the original contract was in Pound.

They are toothless, and I can't see anything happening.

Yes I agree, EPC is toothless.

GermanKeeper

Trebor16 wrote: »

I am wondering how a debt collector based in Germany could take action in a German court based on an alleged debt in the UK?

If the debitor lives in Germany and is a consumer then a civil claim has to go to German courts, even if it is an alleged debt in the UK. So a German court would have to apply UK laws (English contract law). But the laws of court proceedings will still be the German laws, so it is not impossible that a German debt collector starts court action.

But I think this is theoretical. I do not believe that the German debt will do something which brings the case to a German court.

Coupon-mad

Same as this poster on pepipoo forum recently:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=84520

and they posted a pdf of this insane speculative invoice!

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24611

:eek:

The advice on there suggested ignoring it or having a laugh and asking to dispute it with POPLA! Seeing as the (badly-worded) German Notice talks about the Protection of Freedoms Act!

PE take the biscuit, they really do! :rotfl:

Stroma

Send Parking Eye an appeal in German And then do a popla appeal also in German pmsl , and on that it's conceivable that someone from there does not speak or read English , so how can a contract or meeting of minds be made ?

GermanKeeper

Coupon-mad wrote: »

and they posted a pdf of this insane speculative invoice!
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24611

The second page is the same as in the letter I got, but the first page looks a little bit different: as the parking event of my car dates back to September 2012 they didn't refer to POFA 2012.

@Mr RK: When did your letter arrive in Germany? Was this in 14 days after the parking event?

zzzLazyDaisy

Stroma wrote: »

Send Parking Eye an appeal in German And then do a popla appeal also in German pmsl , and on that it's conceivable that someone from there does not speak or read English , so how can a contract or meeting of minds be made ?

I really think these motorists should be making a formal complaint to BPA since there is NO keeper liability in Germany as POFA doesn't apply.

I am presuming that Steve Clark, Dave Metcalfe et al can read German...

Iceweasel

Judging by what was posted on Pepipoo and elsewhere in both German and Swedish they used Google Translate.

Certainly no native speaker proof read it anyway.

What a shower of chancers!

bargepole

I can see another Parking Prankster Hitler video finding its way on to YouTube about this one. (Don't mention the war - I did once, but I think I got away with it).

Stroma

I've tweeted him about it lol