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SSE raises energy prices 8.2% just before winter....again.

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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    any evidence for that?

    What is it you want evidence for?

    That the utility industry was sold in the the mid 1980s?
    The party in power that sold the utility industries?
    That utility prices are higher?
    That companies are driven by profit?
    Shareholders want the companies that they hold shares in to make a profit?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    What is it you want evidence for?

    That the utility industry was sold in the the mid 1980s?
    The party in power that sold the utility industries?
    That utility prices are higher?
    That companies are driven by profit?
    Shareholders want the companies that they hold shares in to make a profit?



    The issue is would prices be lower if the government ran the energy industry rather than private enterprise?

    Is profit a bad thing? would you like it banned?

    Should the government provide other services or only the energy sector?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    The issue is would prices be lower if the government ran the energy industry rather than private enterprise?
    I think so. The government would try and subsidise it I imagine. PLCs are driven by profit, profit is usually generated by higher prices and lower margins or both hence higher utility prices like now.
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Is profit a bad thing? would you like it banned?
    Profit is not a bad thing. No of course not, I want my dividends being paid.
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Should the government provide other services or only the energy sector?
    I'm not sure. I don't think government controlled services in the UK are a bad thing but not sure it's a good thing either.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    I think so. The government would try and subsidise it I imagine. PLCs are driven by profit, profit is usually generated by higher prices and lower margins or both hence higher utility prices like now.

    Profit is not a bad thing. No of course not, I want my dividends being paid.

    I'm not sure. I don't think government controlled services in the UK are a bad thing but not sure it's a good thing either.



    bizarre

    profit leads to higher prices

    profit is not bad

    government control is either good or bad
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    bizarre

    profit leads to higher prices

    profit is not bad

    government control is either good or bad
    Your assumptions are terrible if not very wrong.

    I don't have a problem with high prices hence me not thinking profit is bad.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    Your assumptions are terrible if not very wrong.

    I don't have a problem with high prices hence me not thinking profit is bad.



    oh I see

    I thought that this had a small air of disapproval: but nice to be wrong
    Higher utility prices is what you get for selling the industry to shareholders who are driven by profit.

    Remind me again please, was it a Labour government that did that?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    oh I see

    I thought that this had a small air of disapproval: but nice to be wrong
    No disapproval about profit and high prices (I'd obviously want to pay less) but if you buy shares in Centrica and enjoy their dividends you can't really complain about high gas prices.

    The disapproval was the taking of a partisan position blaming one political party for high utility prices without looking at how it started.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    No disapproval about profit and high prices (I'd obviously want to pay less) but if you buy shares in Centrica and enjoy their dividends you can't really complain about high gas prices.

    The disapproval was the taking of a partisan position blaming one political party for high utility prices without looking at how it started.



    so
    two misunderstanding
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so
    two misunderstanding
    Come again?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    What was Millibands contribution when energy secretary to address the issue of new power generation?

    Nothing new the issues have been with us for 15 years.
    Hence the small g and the s.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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