Vehicle Control Services - POPLA time

Olivier

I can see that (as I thought) from this post: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=64406182&postcount=744

the costs provided do not seem to actually result from the (alledged) breach, so hopefully the same verdict will be given.

Coupon-mad

Olivier wrote: »

Hello,

I have received by email the evidence for the case. There are 2 emails, one with documents, one with a video.

Interestingly there is a copy of an agreement dated 25 July 2013 between Liverpool Airport and VCS.

There is also a copy of Pre-estimate of loss.

The email states that I have up to 7 days before the case is seen to send additional evidence. Is there anything more I can do now?

Thanks

This will not need any more action by you.

The 'loss' thing will lose it for them, as we've seen that before from VCS, as you have discovered. Also you are the keeper and you are not liable - and you had the point 'not relevant Land under POFA 2012; no registered keeper liability' as belt and braces!

No worries - but can you pm me the agreement (unless it says the enclosures are strictly confidential?). I would be interested to see it.

Olivier

There is something about confidentiality. I'll check.

Also I realise they've sent the documents exactly 7 days before the case date.

Olivier

Sorry, I can't disclose the PEOL or the agreement as they're marked confidential.

For the agreement, it's a redacted copy. I know the appeal asks not to accept such a copy, so not sure how that's going to work.

Coupon-mad

Aha, well in the 'POPLA decisions' thread, VCS have also lost cases because they have sent a redacted agreement. So they are on a hiding to nothing with your case!

bod1467

Reading about the VCS evidence to POPLA reminded me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A

Olivier

I have added something to my defense (via email to POPLA)

In the evidence pack that VCS sent me, is a copy of the agreement.

BUT 1) it's a redacted copy, and 2) it does not contain schedule 4, which is the fees structure which displays how much commision and profit they are expecting. This is an important point to make when appealing on grounds of NGPEOL.

So if you've received your evidence pack and the schedule 4 is not included, point it out to the lead assessor as part of your defence.

Olivier

Just got an email from POPLA, appeal allowed.

"The Operator should now cancel the parking charge forthwith."

Edit: the pdf reader on my mobiel tricked me. On page 2 of the document it clearly shows the reason for allowing the appeal is the GPEOL.

Coupon-mad

Well done! Can you post the decision up here please including the Assessor's name, when you are on a PC or laptop?

Olivier

Coupon-mad,

The Prankster kindly put it on the topic already: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=64479305&postcount=756