Bad Drivers

Jamie_Carter

JohalaReewi wrote: »

A slow-moving vehicle is one that can only move slowly.
Slow-moving is an adjective which describes the vehicle.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/moving?q=moving
Also
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/slow?q=slow


A Ferrari is not a slow-moving vehicle even when travelling at 25mph on a 60mph road.
In this situation, the Ferrari is moving slowly.
Slowly is an adverb which describes how the vehicle is moving.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/slowly?q=slowly

In your example, the Ferrari is a slowly moving vehicle.

Of particular interest from the dictionary definition for slow...

It's English innit?

A slow vehicle is one that can only move slowly. A slow moving vehicle could be any vehicle that is moving slowly. It's not rocket science.

martinthebandit

stephen77 wrote: »

While you can some times guess it.

You also do not want to be regularly in the 3rd lane if your not over taking anything in the middle lane. Especially if the 3rd lane is busy.
Some times cars in the 3rd lane are flying past you, so you can not safely move out into the 3rd lane as well.

I often drive in the middle lane as over taking lorry's, but not going faster to warrant being in the outer lane.
I do pull over to the 1st lane when I have over taken everything I need to, before some one says I am a middle lane hogger.

However sometimes, Yep I could have anticipated it a bit earlier in hindsight. Well basically every steepish hill a lorry will try and over take another lorry.

The post I was responding to appeared to suggest that it happened to the poster a lot, or regularly which suggested to me that perhaps there was something he/she could, or should do to try and, at least, reduce the number of times it happens to them.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

stephen77 wrote: »

It was squeaky bum time.

In a way, no offense. I am glad it happened to some one else. So I know it was not my eyesight :cool:

If it happened again. I probably put my hazards on, just to be safe.
DId you have any idea of why it went to 20mph in your stretch?

The sign next to the speed said workmen in the road but I couldn't see anyone around, maybe they were just testing (it was fairly new at the time) or someone pressed the wrong button, surprising they can set it so low as usually if the motorway is so bad you need to do 20 you wouldn't be going much faster than that anyway.

The lorries pulling out are a bit scary as well, you assume they know you are they and will wait rather than just drive in to you but you never know, it's even worse on a 2 lane motorway as there's nowhere to go and worse still in Europe as the lanes often seem narrower to me.

Going off topic a bit but the hard shoulders in France look pretty tiny to me, I really wouldn't want to have to stop in one as they look like you'd just about squeeze the car in!

go_cat

martinthebandit wrote: »

The post I was responding to appeared to suggest that it happened to the poster a lot, or regularly which suggested to me that perhaps there was something he/she could, or should do to try and, at least, reduce the number of times it happens to them.

My point was actually the lorries just indicate and pull out regardless of what appears to be in the middle lane...all I would like is some consideration of traffic and speed in middle lanes!

martinthebandit

go_cat wrote: »

My point was actually the lorries just indicate and pull out regardless of what appears to be in the middle lane...all I would like is some consideration of traffic and speed in middle lanes!

......and my point, which I think you have missed, is that lorry's don't, or at least I have never seen them do it, just indicate and pull out into the middle lane for no reason.

They do it to overtake a slower vehicle in front of them, I am not suggesting that the lorry driver is not in the wrong, he clearly is, but a bit of anticipation on your part means that it won't happen to you.

PZH

martinthebandit wrote: »

......and my point, which I think you have missed, is that lorry's don't, or at least I have never seen them do it, just indicate and pull out into the middle lane for no reason.

Then you've been lucky.

I've had lorries pull out and then indicate, even though the vehicle they were overtaking was way in front of them.

I've had lorries stay behind the vehicle in front, at a constant distance, and then suddenly decide to pull out, even though I've been alongside them all the way (in heavy traffic).

Not saying all lorries do this, and yes, I anticipate as much as possible, but sometimes there is just no accounting for idiot decisions on the part of other drivers.

What makes some lorries more dangerous are the fact that they are not from the UK and therefore have the driver on the nearside and even more blind as to what is around them.

ETA: Suffice to say that I give lorries a very wide berth and always treat them as if they going to pull out.

PZH

Another annoyance with lorry drivers is on dual carriageways (Especially the M11 :mad:) were they match each others speed but then start on a downhill section.

The number of times I've seen a lorry pull out, draw alongside the other lorry, then slow down as they reach an uphill part, only to pull back in behind the first lorry after a couple of miles because they can't maintain the speed.


Having said that, an to even the balance somewhat, I've also seen lorries with their LEFT indicator on, clearly wanting to turn left at the junction ahead, but having to pull over to the right to make the turn. Don't think all car drivers realise this, and I have seen people try to go down the left hand side of a lorry only to be cut off as the lorry swings left. And then they try to blame the lorry driver...

frugal_mike

Yes, I've had trouble with lorry drivers too. Was at a 4-lane roundabout/junction coming off a dual carriageway. The lorry was in the left hand lane, which went left only at the next exit. I was in the lane to the right of him that also went left at the next exit, or right around the roundabout. The lorry driver just continued around the roundabout without even indicating, so clearly hadn't seen the various signs that said left only from that lane.

He took the front of my car off, and tried to claim to the police I had run into the back of him. Thankfully the insurance company didn't believe him and paid out

Obviously this was an isolated incident. Most lorry drivers drive very well.

cheltenham_dude

My pet hate at the moment is burkes driving their cars during daytime with their main beams on, blinding anyone they're driving behind who may happen to check their rear mirror (as you're supposed to do from time-to-time) or pedestrians who they're driving in the direction of.

Another personal hate, though a fairly local one, is on one of the main roads around here, where theres a turning for the hospital - certain idiots seem to think its ok to pull out 5 or 6 cars back and drive into the path of oncoming traffic, just to get to the turning quicker! I think some day there is going to be a nasty accident along there!

likelyfran

Totally agree, pinkshoes.
Many many people don't even INDICATE in areas with lots of both traffic and pedestrians.
What the h*ll is wrong with them???
I don't even drive and I know that you should indicate!
Also, speeding in residential areas - why aren't speed cameras put there??