My dog bled to death 2 hours after leaving veterinary practice

earthstorm

hachette wrote: »

The web site is actually called Just Answer they have professional people in all different fields who can answer your questions. All the vets I asked the opinion from are registered vets.

their is nothing to say they are professional people who give you answers, its just an American run answer/question site

hachette

sodukoman wrote: »

No fault settlements happen every day. Who is providing you with a written report and in what way are they expert? So far your case is built on a very dodgy house of cards.

He is qualified forensic vet. Letters after his name are BVSc,MSc(Forensic Science) Cert CBRN, MRCVS Research Fellow-Staffordshire University.
If this guy thinks I have got a case for negligence then I don't think my case is built on very dodgy house of cards. I don't think judge will ignore his opinion.

peachyprice

hachette wrote: »

The web site is actually called Just Answer they have professional people in all different fields who can answer your questions. All the vets I asked the opinion from are registered vets.

Hmmm.

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http://www.consumeraffairs.com/online/justanswer_com.html
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Reviews/justanswer_com__5812322
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.justanswer.com
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hachette

This was a question to my forensic as I omitted it in my documents.
I just wanted to make one more observation regarding Maxie's bandage that has been bothering me. Having looked at the techniques of placing bandage on dog's thorax I noted that the throat area is always left exposed and bandage goes over the shoulder. In case of Maxie they extended it to his neck to cover venopuncture site. Is it possible that dog with such low plt could bleed also from venopuncture site hence the need to bandage it ?

Also do you think I could file my claim now as they will have 14 days to reply and I will get to know what their defence is likely to be ?

And this is his answer

The answer to your question is yes but this was not noticed on the post mortem.


I need to read the file carefully, but it appears that the animal did bleed out from the chest surgical site.

this could be from a clotting deficit or a severed blood vessel at surgery that started to bleed out after the dog recovered from anaesthetic and blood pressure began to rise. I am unsure if there was a post mortem observation of the venipuncture wound and bleeding from this site.


I know you are keen to get at them, but please be patient. I will consider the information I have been supplied carefully and write a report.

With regard to your claim, you need to file it and adduce my report when you file it. I don't think you can file a claim and then add my report later, but please remember I am one of two qualified forensic vets in the world and I am not a solicitor. If it is small claims court then you need to consider that I may need to fly over and provide evidence. It is unlikely that the court will award costs in this matter however it is likely that the Veterinary practice may want to settle the matter before the court case to avoid adverse publicity.

earthstorm

hachette wrote: »

This was a question to my forensic as I omitted it in my documents.

so you submitted documents with vital parts omitted. along with printed reports from a website. these will all go against you regardless to what a forensic vet says as you are not disclosing all information

hachette

My letter to Prime Minister
The Rt Hon David Cameron MP
10 Downing Street
London SW1A 2AA


02/03/13


Dear Mr Cameron,

Re: Companion animal’s status in Law and Vet’s Negligence.

I am forced to write this letter as a consequence of a huge veterinary negligence that resulted in my animal companion Maxie’s death. I am left devastated and distraught and will never forget how and why my dog has died. Through this dreadful experience I have learned that my dog’s law status in our society is that of a chattel. The law that originated back in medieval times is still with us in the 21st century and we have to abide by it. Animals are sentient beings that feel and give love, feel pain and stress just as humans and yet when it comes to law they are no more that an ornament or a vase that I own.
Human medicine and veterinary medicine are both medical professions dealing with beings. If a doctor is negligent we can sue him for this. However if it is a vet there is nothing we can do. RCVS does not deal with negligence unless it is on top of seriousness and can be classified as professional misconduct. I read RCVS guide on negligence and professional misconduct and I quote:

“In order to establish negligence, it is necessary to prove on the balance of probabilities that a duty of care existed, that it was breached and that the damage suffered was direct result of the defendant’s act or omission. Damage can be economic loss, physical injury or both”.

RCVS describes the death of my dog, just as economic loss? My animal companion who was hardly ever separated from me for the past 8 years suppose to be just an economic loss to me? He has died as my vet has chosen to ignore his blood result with critically low platelet count (putting it down to machine error) and carried on with surgery that made him bleed to death just 2 hours after I brought him home. This was not an economic loss to me. This was one of the most devastating experiences of my life. Although I have made a complaint to RCVS I am not at all confident that they will take any disciplinary action against my vet.

There is approx 700-800 complaints against vets per year but only approx 12 cases per year go in front of the Disciplinary Committee. What happens to the others? Mostly no action whatsoever is taken. All these distraught animal guardians cannot punish the wrongdoer for their actions and negligent vets go back into practice at the rate of a few hundred per year. Some money driven veterinary surgeons have not got any incentive to make sure they properly treat our animals as they have nothing to lose. The solicitors do not take veterinary negligence cases due to our companion animal’s status in law as property they cannot recover any money for the owners emotional distress or their animals sentimental value, just the price of your dog (economic value) which makes it not worth pursuing as their legal costs would be higher. So where do we go to punish negligent vets? It seems there is nowhere to go because of this unfair law that really has no place in modern society.

European Union law recognised animals in 1997 as sentient beings- able to feel pain and suffering. This recognition was strengthened in the Lisbon Treaty of 2009.
Some countries like Germany in 2002 and Switzerland in 1992 guaranteed rights to animals in amendment to their constitution to recognize animals also as beings not things. So why can’t we have the same changes to the law in UK?

There are about 26 million pet owners and we spend almost 15 billion per year to care for our companions, hugely contributing to the British economy.

Surely our pets and we their guardians deserve to be more protected by the legal system.

I look forward to hearing your views on the above issue.

Kind Regards

lincroft1710

hachette wrote: »

My letter to Prime Minister
The Rt Hon David Cameron MP
10 Downing Street
London SW1A 2AA


02/03/13


Dear Mr Cameron,

Re: Companion animal’s status in Law and Vet’s Negligence.

I am


I look forward to hearing your views on the above issue.

Kind Regards

As you wrote this 7 months ago, what was Cameron's response.

hachette

I did get reply. My letter was passed on to DEFRA. I scanned it but can not post it on here don't know why. I will try again as it is very interesting.

hachette

earthstorm wrote: »

so you submitted documents with vital parts omitted. along with printed reports from a website. these will all go against you regardless to what a forensic vet says as you are not disclosing all information

That was not vital part of information it was just mine lay observer observatiom. I did not give him any reports I got from websites.

hachette

lincroft1710 wrote: »

As you wrote this 7 months ago, what was Cameron's response.

I will try to post it again, I scaned the letter and it is in my documents but this scan will not copy and paste to this site. if anybody have any idea how to get my this document to this site let me know.