Motability announcement

schrodie

CTcelt1988 wrote: »

If 150,000 people lose their cars under PIP and get the £2,000, then it would cost Motability £300 million! No way could they afford that! I would imagine that the Goverment will give Motability the money, although £300m is too much.

The operative word there is IF.

The regulations state that if you cannot mobilise up to 50m safely, to an acceptable standard, repeatedly and in a reasonable time period you may still be entitled to the enhanced rate of the Mobility Component of PIP. Because of this they don't expect a too severe reduction in the number of people loosing their Motability cars. Also there is a further consultation on the 20m distance but to be honest I'm not holding my breath that the DWP will change their minds as the whole point of PIP is to save money by abolishing DLA.

Cpt.Scarlet

CTcelt1988 wrote: »

If 150,000 people lose their cars under PIP and get the £2,000, then it would cost Motability £300 million! No way could they afford that! I would imagine that the Goverment will give Motability the money, although £300m is too much.

They'll sell the returned cars to cover the cost!

cbrown372

portly1 wrote: »

Definitely did the right thing in sending my mobility car back that I leased from Nov 2011 - It would have to go back in Nov 2014 anyhow so no support for me from them.

Bought my own vehicle instead.

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Richie, you're the super sleuth round here, so perhaps you can give us mere mortals the heads up on the next AE. Thanks

xx

The apple never falls far from the tree.

Richie-from-the-Boro

cbrown372 wrote: »

the apple never falls far from the tree.

dup ..............................................

kingfisherblue

A question......

My son will be 16 next Spring and will be transferred from DLA to PIP. As he cannot walk without pain, has an abnormal gait, wears special insoles from the podiatry department at the hospital, uses a wheelchair when out, cannot go out alone due to no conception of danger, etc, I am hopeful that he will qualify for the enhanced rate for mobility. If he doesn't, I will of course appeal. Now, my question. I would have assumed that if he was unsuccessful in getting the enhanced rate, he would qualify for the £2000 payment as he has had a mobility car since 2008. However, a couple of days ago, a car crashed into me when I was driving. An independent witness came forward to give his details - he is happy to confirm that the other car came out of a side alley and crashed into me - I was driving along a main road and had right of way.

The car is now in for repair and I am driving a hire car, paid for via the insurance. RSA have sorted everything out for me. I know that when the current vehicle is returned, I will no longer receive the good condition bonus. But, if my son doesn't get the enhanced rate of PIP mobility, will this accident mean that we don't get the £2000 payment as well? Obviously if we do receive it, it will have to go towards another car.

Also, for anyone who doesn't qualify and receives the £2000 payment, but then gets the enhanced rate on appeal, presumably they would have to repay the £2000? But what if they have spent it on a car?

Sorry for the long post and the questions - I'm just feeling a bit confused about things at the moment.

Horseunderwater

kingfisherblue wrote: »

A question......

My son will be 16 next Spring and will be transferred from DLA to PIP. As he cannot walk without pain, has an abnormal gait, wears special insoles from the podiatry department at the hospital, uses a wheelchair when out, cannot go out alone due to no conception of danger, etc, I am hopeful that he will qualify for the enhanced rate for mobility. If he doesn't, I will of course appeal. Now, my question. I would have assumed that if he was unsuccessful in getting the enhanced rate, he would qualify for the £2000 payment as he has had a mobility car since 2008. However, a couple of days ago, a car crashed into me when I was driving. An independent witness came forward to give his details - he is happy to confirm that the other car came out of a side alley and crashed into me - I was driving along a main road and had right of way.

The car is now in for repair and I am driving a hire car, paid for via the insurance. RSA have sorted everything out for me. I know that when the current vehicle is returned, I will no longer receive the good condition bonus. But, if my son doesn't get the enhanced rate of PIP mobility, will this accident mean that we don't get the £2000 payment as well? Obviously if we do receive it, it will have to go towards another car.

Also, for anyone who doesn't qualify and receives the £2000 payment, but then gets the enhanced rate on appeal, presumably they would have to repay the £2000? But what if they have spent it on a car?

Sorry for the long post and the questions - I'm just feeling a bit confused about things at the moment.

Have a look at the PIP descriptors from the benefits and works site: http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system It is number 2 on the mobility bit. Your son should more than qualify for the 12 points needed IMO.
Not sure about the current car problem though.

CTcelt1988

kingfisherblue wrote: »

A question......

My son will be 16 next Spring and will be transferred from DLA to PIP. As he cannot walk without pain, has an abnormal gait, wears special insoles from the podiatry department at the hospital, uses a wheelchair when out, cannot go out alone due to no conception of danger, etc, I am hopeful that he will qualify for the enhanced rate for mobility. If he doesn't, I will of course appeal. Now, my question. I would have assumed that if he was unsuccessful in getting the enhanced rate, he would qualify for the £2000 payment as he has had a mobility car since 2008. However, a couple of days ago, a car crashed into me when I was driving. An independent witness came forward to give his details - he is happy to confirm that the other car came out of a side alley and crashed into me - I was driving along a main road and had right of way.

The car is now in for repair and I am driving a hire car, paid for via the insurance. RSA have sorted everything out for me. I know that when the current vehicle is returned, I will no longer receive the good condition bonus. But, if my son doesn't get the enhanced rate of PIP mobility, will this accident mean that we don't get the £2000 payment as well? Obviously if we do receive it, it will have to go towards another car.

Also, for anyone who doesn't qualify and receives the £2000 payment, but then gets the enhanced rate on appeal, presumably they would have to repay the £2000? But what if they have spent it on a car?

Sorry for the long post and the questions - I'm just feeling a bit confused about things at the moment.

You can still get the good condition bonus even if you have made an insurance claim - they changed the rules a few years ago.

kingfisherblue

Horseunderwater wrote: »

Have a look at the PIP descriptors from the benefits and works site: http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system It is number 2 on the mobility bit. Your son should more than qualify for the 12 points needed IMO.
Not sure about the current car problem though.

I agree that my son should qualify for enhanced mobility PIP. On part 1, he should get 12 points as he cannot follow a familiar route without help from someone else - he needs help in several ways. He needs to be kept safe from danger, both road safety and stranger danger. He recognises some places when we pass them (such as the road where one of his school friends lives, as he goes there every day on his school bus), but has no idea how to get there. He also needs someone to push his wheelchair, as he doesn't have the physical strength to do it himself, and also he has no awareness of how much space to give other people - on the odd occasion he has had a self propelled wheelchair in the supermarket, he has managed to wheel forward a few feet before his wrists hurt, but in that time can easily knock into someone in front of him!

Part 2 is more difficult, as it doesn't mention pain. My son has very hypermobile joints and also gets out of breath very quickly. He stops frequently, managing maybe 20-30 metres maximum on some days. Other days, he cannot walk at all without pain. He even stops for a few seconds two or three times when walking from our front door to the school bus (maybe 15-20 metres). Some days he is in pain without walking at all. I'm guessing that he would get 8 points, but it depends on whether they take his pain into account. He often spends at least part of most evenings with his feet up to rest his limbs, and I frequently have to massage his legs. I have asked his GP, paediatrician, community paediatrician, physiotherapist and occupational therapist for help, but there is nothing they can do.

I think many people are a bit worried about PIP, even when they know that they (or in this case not me but my son) should qualify. My sensible head says not to worry, but as the time gets closer, I am getting concerned.

Thank you for your reply though, HUW. It was kind of you to take the time to post the link, which I have now saved for future reference.

kingfisherblue

CTcelt1988 wrote: »

You can still get the good condition bonus even if you have made an insurance claim - they changed the rules a few years ago.

I didn't know that, thank you. RSA are going to claim from the other driver's insurance I think, as he came out of a side access road and I was driving along a main road. Also, an independent witness came forward to support me. The car hire company have told me that they are claiming the costs from the other driver's insurance. I had to have a car with a big enough boot for my son's wheelchair, so the Corsa they have wasn't suitable. Instead, I have a Hyundai I30, which was the only car available that had sufficient space.