Superseal Magic Box -

Jon_Tiffany

As Ed said - cancel asap!!

There may be some benefits, but they are likely to be tiny.

I would also say that some of their claims are dubious, so much so that I'm going to write to trading standards.

My advice would be to avoid this company.

jimjames

So OP did you cancel?

We have a fairly large 1930s house. Heating (gas) costs are around £800 per year. Even if (very big IF!) we could save 50% on our gas bill we would only save £400 pa which would give over 20 year payback. 50% sounds very high so you're more likely looking at 50 year payback which doesn't make it look so appealing.

If this really was the revolution that they claim don't you think it would be installed everywhere, not least by the govt that need to cut CO2 emissions by 2020.

rockin_plumber

I had to do a boiler change last week, the customer had a Magic Box:o fitted about two months prior to our arrival, it may have been a different company but there are lots of company's marketing these, the main info about them is the suppliers saying how good they are.....

As his 26 year old boiler had given up, I feel the savings he is going to notice are going to be more to the fact he has a modern condensing boiler now.

As the installers left no documentation for anything they fitted it was hard to make my mind up if it does what it says on the tin, but in my view it looks like an expensive low loss header, and there is no doubt in my mind it cost a lot for this to be fitted.

As the flow and return from the boiler are connected direct to the Magic Box:o it was quite an easy change, but, it was only when I tested the system afte fitting the new boiler, and the first floor heating wouldn't work that other things showed up!

All I can say is this box must be really Magic:o

The magnaclean they had fitted, would have only been on the first floors heating return, so all water from the ground floor heating would have missed the magnaclean.

On further investigation it emerged the magnaclean was in fact fitted on the heating cold feed, so it wasn't doing anything!

We altered the pipe work, moved the magnaclean, and tested the system, something the Magic Box:o installers didn't do!

Installing this cost between £8000 & £13000 I can assume from figures found on the web, and it wasn't installed correctly, no documentation for equipment had been left, hadn't been tested and commissioned, it was just a case of throw it in and run away.

Throw in the claims of 30-50% savings on fuel bills! This could have been possible on this property as the first floor heating was never going to work, but otherwise, no chance!


Avoid like the plague!

bjproc

mum & dad has just had them in, the guy said, on a £500+ annual energy bill, they could save £800+ a year

jimjames

bjproc wrote: »

mum & dad has just had them in, the guy said, on a £500+ annual energy bill, they could save £800+ a year

Did he explain how they could save more than their annual bill?

bjproc

jimjames wrote: »

Did he explain how they could save more than their annual bill?

i asked how they managed that, he waffled on about they could turn on all radiators and still save this amount. he never said exactly how.

i laughed at him and said it was rubbish

EricMears

jimjames wrote: »

Did he explain how they could save more than their annual bill?

I wondered that too ! Thought there might have been a typo in the posting.

bjproc

EricMears wrote: »

I wondered that too ! Thought there might have been a typo in the posting.

no, no typo, my parents have a £500+ annual energy bill and this guy said they could save over £800 :eek:

PS, i think i may get a solicitors letter, as i called their company something
the boss was on the phone to my saying legal action.......

Trapper

This is about £ 300-400 of kit being installed at a cost to the end user of over £ 10,000.

Savings might, just, amount to 5% on an older boiler, but you'd be better replacing anything over 10 years of age with a new condesing boiler at a third of the cost or less - and then see real savings of perhaps 25%!

legoman62

I guess it is a "magic" box.....It can make your money disappear:D