not returning back to work after maternity leave

FBaby

BoroPhil wrote: »

are some posters in here basically saying only the rich should be able to have children? or at the very least it should be a lot easier for the rich to have children?

you are aware that starting a family is a fundamental human right?

I would love to see statistics on the level of earnt family income aligned with number of children in one family. At the moment, the only people who actually benefit from having more children are those reliant on benefits. How much of an impact does this have on the choice people make to have more children?

charlies-aunt

BoroPhil wrote: »

you are aware that starting a family is a fundamental human right?

Sorry I have to disagree with this.

Children are a precious gift and it's a privilege to be a parent.

Everyone has the "right" to choose if they want to bring a child into the world, they are exercising their "right" to freedom of choice - but they have to take full responsibility for their choice.

It's not for society to fund individual lifestyle choices.

BoroPhil

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

Article 16. I was stating a fact, not an opinion.

portly1

BoroPhil wrote: »

are some posters in here basically saying only the rich should be able to have children? or at the very least it should be a lot easier for the rich to have children?

you are aware that starting a family is a fundamental human right?

That does seem to be the thinking of many on here!

They are of the opinion that children should only be brought into this world if the parents have the financial means and ability to provide for them without recourse to public funds to subsidise them.
Here are just two of the opinions:

Seven-day-weekend states:
Whilst totally agreeing with this lifestyle choice, I do not think that the taxpayer should have to subsidise this choice.

I was a SAHM until my son started school. My husband worked and supported the family. The only Benefit we had was the (universal) Child Benefit.

Jules1964 states:
sorry but if you cant afford to support your child, one dont have one until you can and two dont expect tax payers to pay for you

MissMoneypenny

BoroPhil wrote: »

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

Article 16. I was stating a fact, not an opinion.

There is nothing in Article 16 that says other people must fund their lifestyle choices.

bloolagoon

portly1 wrote: »

That does seem to be the thinking of many on here!

They are of the opinion that children should only be brought into this world if the parents have the financial means and ability to provide for them without recourse to public funds to subsidise them.
Here are just two of the opinions:

Seven-day-weekend states:
Whilst totally agreeing with this lifestyle choice, I do not think that the taxpayer should have to subsidise this choice.

I was a SAHM until my son started school. My husband worked and supported the family. The only Benefit we had was the (universal) Child Benefit.

Jules1964 states:
sorry but if you cant afford to support your child, one dont have one until you can and two dont expect tax payers to pay for you

As someone who is heavily supported yet wealthy with assets I take it you will be fine in 2 years when they say that all benefits including state pensions will be means tested. No more AA or PC.

You survive on your private pensions only

Reason being the new birth population and CTC are taking up too much budget and so everything is means tested.

Sinhanada

SAMMYBOW1010 wrote: »

it is not that i cant be bother returning to work!! if you read my question it is due to childcare costs and would be returning back to work once my child is in school if i did decide not to return!!! i do not have to justify myself to you i was asking a question................ i returned back to work when i had my first child and i do not feel that the tax payer should pay for me as i am a tax payer myself

Quite right indeed. I understand fully the high costs of childcare and support you in that. I am a tax payer myself.

I would certainly suggest that you contact your local Citizens Advice as they will be able to help more with what benefits you can and cannot claim in conjunction with your OH.

I also agree that there are part time positions out there which can fit around your current child care issues and should hopefully be able to assist you. Another avenue, have you considered going into childcare yourself? Complete your NVQ's and have your assessments done - then you kill two birds with one stone? You get to work AND look after your child without the exorbitant child care costs associated with that.

Lastly, and this is to all those who think that we are funding the people who do not want to work. The Majority do and will work. The Government are demonizing single parents, people who cannot find work and the disabled. If you bothered to read the OP comments you will see that she does, has and will continue to work.

BoroPhil

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

There is nothing in Article 16 that says other people must fund their lifestyle choices.

not explicitly. But how else will poor people have this right satisfied without state assistance?

Maybe the government should issue child licences, which you can only obtain once you are earning a certain level of income?

missapril75

BoroPhil wrote: »

you are aware that starting a family is a fundamental human right?

The government has just announced they're doing away with such pesky things.

Human rights? Pfft!

FBaby

you are aware that starting a family is a fundamental human right?

Does article 16 stipulate a time frame to that right? Does it states that the day you decide you want to start a family, you have that right, or does it mean that you have a right to plan your family and have it when you are ready?

Also, you stipulate right to 'start' a family, does this mean that once you've started it with one child, your rights stop? In this case, should benefits stop after one child?