Tyre Advice Please

portly1

WTFH wrote: »

Also, someone on here who says they change a tyre after the slightest damage probably don't include hitting kerbs as damage or turning the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary.

Errr yes if my car has been 'curbed' probably by my wife, I would consider that that tyre is unsafe to use any longer especially at high speeds over a great distance. I have changed tyres that have shown no damage on the outside, but could well have hidden damage within the structure.

I honestly don't believe it that people are willing to use damaged tyres on the road including those that have had a screw go through them and a garage has offered to 'plug' the hole. Any weakness in the structure, no matter how slight is an accident waiting to happen.

As for people agreeing that a Stanley knife blade buried up to it's hilt in the tyre is still safe to use are plain and simply mad!

PJB

portly1 wrote: »

Errr yes if my car has been 'curbed' probably by my wife.......

As for people agreeing that a Stanley knife blade buried up to it's hilt in the tyre is still safe to use are plain and simply mad!

Sexist as well as a liar, to it's hilt? Jog on troll.

portly1

PJB wrote: »

So you both rave on about safety and then advocate buying a budget tyre for £50, the word hypocrite comes to mind!

Hey! I never buy that rubbish. I always replace what is specified by the manufacturer. Yes I could buy a tyre for £80 or I could buy a specified one for £160.

I always question 'how can they sell one at half the price of another' - simply because you pay for quality.

portly1

PJB wrote: »

Sexist as well as a liar, to it's hilt? Jog on troll.

No just being honest - I don't curb tyres but my wife does and she will testify to that!

Either contribute to the ongoing thread in a decent and helpful manner or 'jog on' to another thread to post your unimportant and irrelevant comments.

PJB

Like calling people who know more than you and disagree with you 'plain and simply mad!'

I've contributed, as have others with facts not lies and scaremongering. That is my lot, not feeding you anymore so I shall bid you good day.

wiogs

PJB wrote: »

Thanks Joe et al.

I took it into a tyre (and exhaust admittedly) specialist today that has been around for over 60 years. He said as Joe has said that it is fine, although it has gone past the tyre tread as such, the cut has not got anywhere near the structure (cords) which gives the tyre the strength and hold, the tread gives grip and hold and in effect it has just added another groove.

To the scaremongers, you know who you are, I cam and sought advice as wanted someone who knew exactly what they what were talking about to advise me and I was always going to physically get it inspected. To start the guilt thing was pathetic, if you all value your safety so much you would not drive anyway and especially nit now you know I'm on the road!

Bit of a waste of time this thread then since no matter what anyone said you were going to get it inspected.

OddballJamie

PJB wrote: »

So you both rave on about safety and then advocate buying a budget tyre for £50, the word hypocrite comes to mind!

The price depends on size. For example £50 could get you a premium 14" even 15" tyre in a common size but only a budget in a 17"/18".

My winter wheels are 205/55/16 and I could get Bridgestones for less than £60 but the same in 225/45/17 for my summer wheels are about £100.

GAZ237

PJB wrote: »

Thanks Joe et al.

I took it into a tyre (and exhaust admittedly) specialist today

Which is what you should of done on day 1, rather than continue to risk driving on it, then start a pathetic thread asking for advice.

You obviously cannot comprehend how ridiculous, it was to go onto a forum to ask if your tyre was safe, when it needed to be inspected professionally.

PJB wrote: »

So you both rave on about safety and then advocate buying a budget tyre for £50, the word hypocrite comes to mind!

If you read all my post. I said depending on what car you have.

£50 with buy a decent tyre for a small car.

Joe_Horner

portly1 wrote: »

[...] including those that have had a screw go through them and a garage has offered to 'plug' the hole. Any weakness in the structure, no matter how slight is an accident waiting to happen.

If that was true then puncture repairs would be illegal, just like recut treads are (on car tyres - for lorries and busses carving a new tread in a worn tyre is perfectly ok)

But you obviously understand more about tyre safety than I do. For that matter you apparently know more about it than:

• The technical experts who developed the Construction and Use regulations, which allow damage like the Op has and puncture repairs
• VOSA, who "police" vehicle safety in this country (and the equivalent bodies in virtually every other country in the world)
• The tyre professional that the OP saw today - who could easily have scared a sale out of it, so was proably being truthful when he said it was safe.
• The tyre manufacturers who wouldn't hesitate to "advise" that their products were not safe to repair if there was any truth at all in the idea

Alternatively, all those people could be right and you could be way off base in your own understanding of what's safe and what isn't. I know which my money's on

jase1

portly1 wrote: »

Any weakness in the structure, no matter how slight is an accident waiting to happen.

That's just scaremongering. It implies that the tyre is only just engineered to the correct tolerance, whereas in fact they have a significant amount of slack in the design. A tyre with a legal repair is not inherently unsafe at all.

portly1 wrote: »

I always question 'how can they sell one at half the price of another' - simply because you pay for quality.

I don't agree with that either -- yes there are a few tyres at the very low end that are somewhat compromised, but the point at which a tyre becomes good enough for purpose is far lower than the maximum price you can pay for a tyre.

All tyres are a compromise in any case -- many tyres costing 2/3 as much as, say, a Michelin Energy tyre have significantly better wet grip than the more expensive product. It depends on one's priorities.

Personally, within reason I am not too bothered about noise, or wear rate. I care about wet grip at speed more than anything else -- of all the tyres I've bought, two (Toyo T1R and Uniroyal RainSport) are better in this regard than any of the expensive tyres.