Tyre Advice Please

GAZ237

The four pieces of rubber on your car are all that connects you to the road.
I don't care if you get the hump with this post, but for the sake of the price of one tyre, to be on the safe side.

You are willing to risk the safety of any passengers you carry and also the safety of anyone else in another vehicle or walking, cycling ect.

If your tyre blows out and god forbid, this don't happen, you end up having a head on with another car and put them and theirs kids in hospital or worse. Oh never mind, you don't do guilt do you.

But at least you have asked on a forum and made a phone call to check its safe.

You yourself have said its cut a couple of mm into the actual tyre itself, past the tread. You have not even bothered to have it inspected by a professional.

Nobody on a forum or at the end of the phone can say its safe.

But never mind you have saved the price of 1 tyre.

Putting money before safety is a joke in my book and you obviously care more about the money than safety, very selfish.

PJB

GAZ237 wrote: »

The four pieces of rubber on your car are all that connects you to the road.
I don't care if you get the hump with this post, but for the sake of the price of one tyre, to be on the safe side.

You are willing to risk the safety of any passengers you carry and also the safety of anyone else in another vehicle or walking, cycling ect.

If your tyre blows out and god forbid, this don't happen, you end up having a head on with another car and put them and theirs kids in hospital or worse. Oh never mind, you don't do guilt do you.

But at least you have asked on a forum and made a phone call to check its safe.

You yourself have said its cut a couple of mm into the actual tyre itself, past the tread. You have not even bothered to have it inspected by a professional.

Nobody on a forum or at the end of the phone can say its safe.

But never mind you have saved the price of 1 tyre.

Putting money before safety is a joke in my book and you obviously care more about the money than safety, very selfish.

Seriously? Any need for that? Last time I looked this was Money Saving Expert, I am not, have not and do not put money above safety but I also do not want to waste a perfectly good tyre, if it is still safe to use.

I have asked for some friendly advice, not to be patronised or spoken to like I am a piece of something on your shoe.

By the way how do you even know it is not safe to use? I suspect you don't and are spouting on about something you have no clue about!

Lastly there has to be a time that money comes over safety, both for individuals, companies, government etc etc so you be careful you don't catch a cold all the way up there on your pedestal, or fall off but then you probably have an air bag jacket and the most expensive crash helmet money can buy!

Hintza

GAZ237 wrote: »

The four pieces of rubber on your car are all that connects you to the road.
I don't care if you get the hump with this post, but for the sake of the price of one tyre, to be on the safe side.

You are willing to risk the safety of any passengers you carry and also the safety of anyone else in another vehicle or walking, cycling ect.

If your tyre blows out and god forbid, this don't happen, you end up having a head on with another car and put them and theirs kids in hospital or worse. Oh never mind, you don't do guilt do you.

But at least you have asked on a forum and made a phone call to check its safe.

You yourself have said its cut a couple of mm into the actual tyre itself, past the tread. You have not even bothered to have it inspected by a professional.

Nobody on a forum or at the end of the phone can say its safe.

But never mind you have saved the price of 1 tyre.

Putting money before safety is a joke in my book and you obviously care more about the money than safety, very selfish.

Way, way overboard.

I guess you never exceed the speed limit either!

GAZ237

PJB wrote: »

By the way how do you even know it is not safe to use?

How do you know it IS safe to use?

I'm not the one who is continuing to drive around with a possible dangerous tyre.

Your the one who seems to think the advice of a forum and a telephone call is suffice to gauge the safety of a damaged tyre.

Madness.

Sometimes its better to be safe than sorry.

Joe_Horner

Ok, bit more time to elaborate on my rushed post this morning.

A cut to the tread blocks will not have any effect whatsoever on the tyre's safety if it doesn't go deeper than the bottom of the tread grooves.

A cut that goes deeper than the tread grooves won't have any effect on the tyre's safety if it hasn't gone deep enough to reach the structure. You can check that by carefully opening the cut up with a blunt knife and seeing if there's any sign of exposed fabric or steel in the base of the cut. Note that there's a slight risk of opening the cut deeper doing this and exposing structure as you check, but if the cut is so close to the cords that happens then it was pretty borderline anyway!

If it definitely hasn't reached the structure then it's completely safe no matter what the scaremongers say (and it would even pass an MOT like that) - just check it occasionally to be sure it's not getting worse.

If any of the tyre's structure is exposed then get it changed pronto because, while it may well still be ok, there's no way you can tell for certain and it's a 3 point offence to use it anyway

wiogs

PJB wrote: »

Whilst I appreciate your advice I'm not sure I appreciate your tone, trying to guilt me and then telling me what to do. I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate and perhaps tell me why, if you have any expertise etc please.

I have not driven it on a motorway and this is why I am seeking advice, in the meantime I will not do so.

You must have decided what my tone was as I only asked a question, albeit with a typo in it.

I was not trying to "guilt you".

You asked for advice, I gave you advice.

I really couldn't care whether you heed my advice or ignore it.

portly1

GAZ237 wrote: »

The four pieces of rubber on your car are all that connects you to the road.
I don't care if you get the hump with this post, but for the sake of the price of one tyre, to be on the safe side.

You are willing to risk the safety of any passengers you carry and also the safety of anyone else in another vehicle or walking, cycling ect.

If your tyre blows out and god forbid, this don't happen, you end up having a head on with another car and put them and theirs kids in hospital or worse. Oh never mind, you don't do guilt do you.

But at least you have asked on a forum and made a phone call to check its safe.

You yourself have said its cut a couple of mm into the actual tyre itself, past the tread. You have not even bothered to have it inspected by a professional.

Nobody on a forum or at the end of the phone can say its safe.

But never mind you have saved the price of 1 tyre.

Putting money before safety is a joke in my book and you obviously care more about the money than safety, very selfish.

Absolutely, any damage like this would mean a new tyre for me.

What is £150 compared to an accident that could leave someone dead or dying.

I won't even have a tyre repaired - any damage whatsoever = new tyre always.
And if the tyre on the opposite side is below 3mm I change that as well. Times I have seen a new tyre on one side and a nearly bald one on the other.

GAZ237

portly1 wrote: »

Absolutely, any damage like this would mean a new tyre for me.

What is £150 compared to an accident that could leave someone dead or dying.

I won't even have a tyre repaired - any damage whatsoever = new tyre always.
And if the tyre on the opposite side is below 3mm I change that as well. Times I have seen a new tyre on one side and a nearly bald one on the other.

Good to have someone else with sense.

Depending on what he drives. The tyre may even only be around £50.

But as you say it should make no odds what the price is and the fact the OP said this is a money saving forum, to try and justify themselves is disgraceful.

Always been taught by Father and Grandad, who are both Mechanical Engineers. Don't ever scrimp or take a chance on tyres.

Joe_Horner

portly1 wrote: »

any damage whatsoever = new tyre always.

The problem with that is that your tyres will be damaged every single time you drive on them, it's an unavoidable fact of rolling a piece of rubber in contact with tarmac and gravel. So you should be replacing them again as soon as you leave the tyre fitter, which must get expensive!

I suspect what you mean is "any damage above a certain level, below which I don't consider it damage" which is fine, but means you'll be spending a lot more, and doing a lot more harm to the environment (tyres aren't easy to recycle), than you need to.

Again, that's absolutely fine as it's your wallet / your choice. But expecting others to follow that lead based on a misguided idea of what is or isn't safe isn't fine.

From the description the OP gave, if there's no bulging and if there's no sign of the cords being exposed when the cut's opened then the tyre is just as safe as before it happened because the outer casing plays no part at all in its strength or integrity.

Joe_Horner

GAZ237 wrote: »

Always been taught by Father and Grandad, who are both Mechanical Engineers. Don't ever scrimp or take a chance on tyres.

Funny that, as an ex aero engineer myself, I was always taught don't throw away servicable parts!