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Solid oak floor - lifting!! Enough gaps left.

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  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Sounds like you have rising damp.
    No it doesn't. A most overused and misunderstood phrase. Its sounds like there is some sort of moisture in the subfloor - that isn't rising damp.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Any other signs of raised humidity in the room, with condensation on windows etc?
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    As per above, you can't have a floating floor and then nail it down, the nailing defeats the object.
    Exactly.
    The idea is to allow your new floor and your original floor to react independently to each other.
    But the floor is solid wood. Only laminate qand engineered are installed as floating. Solid wood isn't installed as a floating floor it either has to be nailed down or glued down.. In this case with a timber subfloor it is nailed down using a process called secret nailing using the device the OP observed. An alternative is to screw it down through the tongues once again so that the screws aren't seen.
    Your fitter doesn't know what he is doing.
    Actually he did as far as nailing it down is concerned. My concern would be that he perhaps hasn't used enough nails or hasn't used bitumen backed paper on top of the existing floorboards to provide a moisture barrier - in which case he might be at fault.
    It should have been glued to itself and given the expansion gap the fitter was looking at, that would allow it to float.
    Yes if it were a laminate or engineered youd be spot on.
    The only way to fix it will be to relay it methinks.
    I think you are probably correct.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Tall_Tone wrote: »
    If the the wood is swelling evenly across the whole floor this would be a humidity issue, If the problem is localized there is a leak/moisture ingress of some form. Be careful here as sometimes general expansion causes the biggest build up of pressure in the middle of the floor where it can lift, but the problem is else where.

    The problem is probably to do with the air vents. Make sure they are are not blocked and that you do not have soil up to them or that something else is breaching the DMP from the outside. Paving laid above the DPM line or something.
    +1½.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    I agree 100% ks except, the whole issue is humidity.

    There is no difference in how you should treat overflooring other than to expect it to react differently to the sub floor.

    The key is that the top layer prevents the subfloor from reacting, so top layer expands, sub floor doesn't , whoooops:eek::eek:

    You get my drift.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    .......the whole issue is humidity.....
    Concur. Thats why he should have installed a bitumen backed paper moisture barrier between the sub-floor and the solid wood floor. A polythene or similar moisture barrier would be a no-no. I wonder if thats what he used?

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • bluedrop
    bluedrop Posts: 662 Forumite
    edited 15 September 2013 at 4:35PM
    Thanks for your valuable inputs everyone. He used this underlay

    http://www.wickes.co.uk/flooring-underlay-roll-15m/invt/620801/

    Reg the vents, they are all external. Several other external vents that are slightly raised from the ground level...no probs with them.... Only three vents are at the ground level. Two of them are on either side of the speedbump. One is on the other side of the hallway wall. There is slight damp on the internal wall too. Exactly on the inside of the vent :(

    The vents at the ground level look like this :

    sub%20floor%20vent.jpg
    There is more to life than increasing its speed.
  • Any other signs of raised humidity in the room, with condensation on windows etc?

    No other signs at all
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  • One question, would moisture not enter through the air bricks/vents? I was considering temporarily blocking them to see if there is any difference.... Bad idea??
    There is more to life than increasing its speed.
  • DevCoder
    DevCoder Posts: 3,361 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    bluedrop wrote: »
    One question, would moisture not enter through the air bricks/vents? I was considering temporarily blocking them to see if there is any difference.... Bad idea??

    Bad idea if the OP has gas fires in the room.
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