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The job center is killing me

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  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    keyser666 wrote: »


    Nice thinly veiled dig. Well done. Some people get through life and bumble along without having literacy skills, for them other things are far more important to them.

    I'm sure there are. I don't actually, but whatever.

    The issue is he has been claiming benefits for 4 years, whatever his opinion of the value of literacy is irrelevant. It is not unreasonable for society to demand those claiming benefits do what they can to gain employment, learning basic English would be one of them.

    Not that I think the OP is real.
  • keyser666
    keyser666 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    Denning. wrote: »
    I'm sure there are. I don't actually, but whatever.

    The issue is he has been claiming benefits for 4 years, whatever his opinion of the value of literacy is irrelevant. It is not unreasonable for society to demand those claiming benefits do what they can to gain employment, learning basic English would be one of them.

    Not that I think the OP is real.

    I agree this would help in all manner of job seeking and day to day stuff but I think if someone is vulnerable and unable to read or write correctly maybe one of those JC Advisors or one of the people at the Work Programmes should have picked up and advised accordingly and got him onto one of the courses available, afterall it is their job
  • Horace
    Horace Posts: 14,426 Forumite
    There are so many judgemental people on here - count yourselves lucky that you are extremely well-educated and have fantastic jobs. Sometimes when folk are not used to the internet and have admitted that their reading and writing is not 100% then they may not type as well as anyone else.

    It is quite possible that the Jobcentre and the DWP have advised him that his benefit has been stopped, they do that and sometimes for no apparent reason. I discovered this myself when out of the blue I received a P45 from the jobcentre and when I questioned it, found that I had been signed off because I had not been to sign on. My DEA had to sort it all out as this mess occurred whilst he was on holiday, he had actually asked a colleague to check as to why I wasn't getting £10 a week extra as travel allowance for my residential training course (the course is local to me hence my being able to travel to it but it is a residential course for those that live outside the area).

    Unfortunately for me the person who was supposed to be doing the checking looked at my records, totally ignoring the fact that I was on a residential training course and decided that I had obviously been working because I hadn't been to sign on - hence me getting signed off.

    So you see it is entirely possible to be signed off without actually knowing why. I think that the OP should arrange to see his GP because being constantly alone and shouting to the walls to attempt a conversation is not healthy. He should also ask to see a DEA at his local jobcentre as they tend to be more helpful especially if a person has mental illness (there is no stigma to having mental illness these days).

    Accepting help from others is not shameful either - so using the services of a foodbank is ok and they were set up to help those in hardship. Even though I am on benefits I manage to help out my local foodbank by donating the odd tin or two.

    OP - you are not stupid at all and don't let anyone say you are unemployable. Try and do some volunteering - that will get you out and meeting new people. You might find details of places looking for volunteers in the library - you are good with your hands and can fix things and therefore your talents would be a bonus and it will improve your self confidence.

    Paddy came up with some good ideas too - working as a set builder or building stages. Some of those guys that build stages for festivals travel all over Europe and I certainly couldn't do that job.

    Good Luck OP.
  • Semper in faeces profundum variat, hmmm
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  • keyser666 wrote: »
    Nice thinly veiled dig. Well done. Some people get through life and bumble along without having literacy skills, for them other things are far more important to them.

    Given that the OP has been unable to find work for the past four years, he clearly is not bumbling along with no literacy skills. I cannot think of anything that should be more important to him at this time,
    Denning. wrote: »
    I'm sure there are. I don't actually, but whatever.

    The issue is he has been claiming benefits for 4 years, whatever his opinion of the value of literacy is irrelevant. It is not unreasonable for society to demand those claiming benefits do what they can to gain employment, learning basic English would be one of them.

    Not that I think the OP is real.

    You're right Denning, immigrants are often criticised for claiming benefits when not competent in the use of English skills. The same standards should be applied to those born here.
  • Denning.
    Denning. Posts: 2,749 Forumite
    keyser666 wrote: »
    I agree this would help in all manner of job seeking and day to day stuff but I think if someone is vulnerable and unable to read or write correctly maybe one of those JC Advisors or one of the people at the Work Programmes should have picked up and advised accordingly and got him onto one of the courses available, afterall it is their job

    The OP seemed to not care, and you said it is fine if they don't care and find other stuff more important.

    The JC can't force someone to pass a literacy course, they can compel attendance, but that is all.

    TBH it is part of the whole 'I'm not good at Maths' rubbish we have going on. It is socially acceptable to say you are rubbish at something basic and not attempt to improve. Fewer people feel shame in being ignorant.
  • ~Chameleon~
    ~Chameleon~ Posts: 11,956 Forumite
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    Semper in faeces profundum variat, hmmm

    If you want to try and appear to be clever, please get it right ;)

    Semper in excretio sumus solum profundum variat.
    “You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
  • ap1986
    ap1986 Posts: 214 Forumite
    edited 14 September 2013 at 6:11PM
    If you want to try and appear to be clever, please get it right ;)

    Semper in excretio sumus solum profundum variat.

    Well, well, well, now who's being rude? ;)
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  • If you want to try and appear to be clever, please get it right ;)

    Semper in excretio sumus solum profundum variat.


    Oh I wasn't I copied and pasted it from Horace's signature, I didn't write it, so tell him. I had to look it up lol

    :rotfl:
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • ~Chameleon~
    ~Chameleon~ Posts: 11,956 Forumite
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    Oh I wasn't I copied and pasted it from Horace's signature, I didn't write it, so tell him. I had to look it up lol

    :rotfl:

    Ahhh ok, then maybe he should correct it then :D
    “You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
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