Royal Mail privatisation... Would you?

custardy

AdrianC wrote: »

Sorry, let me get this straight - you're suggesting twelve hour days, six days a week? Seriously? Frankly, I find that difficult to believe.

A quick google finds a different set of figures...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-mail/6327329/Postal-strike-a-postmans-pay-and-conditions.html

That's giving £23k for a basic 40hr week plus 6hrs of overtime, outside London, four years ago when national average was just under £23k. The settlement of that industrial dispute was 7% rise over three years plus a £1400 one-off bonus plus an hour less per week.

you find it hard to believe?
So how would someone earn the money?
I know guys who do 6 days most weeks,they start 2 hours early each day
Thats 20 hours before you add on any other overtime
This is how offices cope under staffing

your article actually states

Average earnings - which include allowances and an average of around six hours overtime a week - are around £23,000 nationally and about £28,000 in inner London.

Allowances? what would they be?
There is no early start allowance,drivers allowance,night shift allowance

lol,the 39 hour week.
I can tell you its implementation has been farcical
heres the same work you did in 40,you need to do it in 39 now

Rotor

Glen_Clark wrote: »

Glen_Clark wrote: »

I take drugs me and wear ladies clothes- yea but i aint fick or nuffin

I hadn't realised how easy it was to change quotes. You started it though -

AdrianC

custardy wrote: »

I know guys who do 6 days most weeks,they start 2 hours early each day
Thats 20 hours before you add on any other overtime

Umm, no, 6 x 2 is 12.

custardy

AdrianC wrote: »

Umm, no, 6 x 2 is 12.

well done,did we forget about working 6 days?
meaning an extra shift

grey_gym_sock

why would privatization prevent their keeping mrs windsor's head on the stamps?

(incidentally, there's no country name on them because this was the 1st country to use stamps.)

AdrianC

custardy wrote: »

well done,did we forget about working 6 days?
meaning an extra shift

I clearly misunderstood your post. My apologies.

So, assuming you're talking about 8hr shifts, then that's 60hr total "most weeks". Not 70.

custardy

AdrianC wrote: »

I clearly misunderstood your post. My apologies.

So, assuming you're talking about 8hr shifts, then that's 60hr total "most weeks". Not 70.

I said that was before you add on any overtime
which these guys will be doing on an ad hoc basis most weeks
I'm not sure why you are labouring the point
in real terms,delivery office staff wages have dropped over recent years even with the wage increase

Glen_Clark

Rotor wrote: »

Glen_Clark wrote: »

I hadn't realised how easy it was to change quotes. You started it though -

Have you changed what I said
PS: Sorry, I was multi tasking - meant to delete part of the quote for brevity and ended up deleting the wrong bit. So the quote was attributed to a different person

Glen_Clark

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

why would privatization prevent their keeping mrs windsor's head on the stamps?

But how could you do it to her satisfaction if the Post Office was owned by TNT or G4S for example? How can G4S be obliged to use the Queen's face for their company logo, and would she accept that? What if G4S got embroiled in another scandal when she was their figurehead? What if they became foreign owned, using the Queen as their logo?

Barbara Castle has said that when they introduced the Employment Protection Act, they had to exclude the Queen's domestic staff from Employment Protection rights to get the Royal Assent so the bill could become law. So she clearly does use her power behind the scenes. And nothing gets passed without the Royal Assent.

(Seems to me Vince Cable has been dumped on to get him out of Osborne's way - giving him the most difficult privatization where all previous attempts have failed)

dickieg

Ive read most the posts and from what i can see there as only been talk of letters and parcels, i have not seen any mention of the D2Ds (the bumph you get pushed through every week). This is a massive earner for Royal Mail and is steadily on the increase. I work for Royal Mail and work hard for the money, its a good hourly rate but is well earned with the weight etc we carry. As part of the conditions we have been told our working conditions will remain the same for 3 years i cant think of another job that does this. So on top of my free shares i will be investing