why are some people entitled to a council house but others are not?

ostrichnomore_2

'The rents are not lower than market rates (only slightly these days)'

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

absolute nonesense:rotfl:

Try reading the entire thing I posted, and not just quoting a few words in isolation, and work on your reading comprehension skills before you say what I wrote is nonesense. This is what I said

'The rents are not lower than market rates (only slightly these days) because any tax/subsidies etc go towards it. The rents charged cover all costs of the housing. It's cheaper because it's not for profit, that's all.'

So by taking a few words in isolation you make it sound as if I was saying council rents are not cheaper than market rates. Clearly that would be nonesense. But it isn't what I said at all. The rents are lower because there is no profit element.

FatVonD

paulineb wrote: »

It is stopping, in Scotland anyway, in 3 years time people wont be able to buy council housing

But if there arent enough to go around, there should be more built.

Sadly about 20 years too late!

Charging market rates for council houses for those that could afford to pay more would provide the revenue needed to build more housing.

paulineb_2

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Who do you suggest pays for these new builds?

A lottery winner? Random billionaire?

The Government maybe? If they can spend millions and billions on war and other items, they could possibly spend some spare change on low cost affordable housing

Not priority though I dont think so I wont hold my breath,

paulineb_2

FatVonD wrote: »

Sadly about 20 years too late!

Charging market rates for council houses for those that could afford to pay more would provide the revenue needed to build more housing.

My local Labour run council had massive surpluses last year, millions, was reading an article about just how much the housing dept has set aside. They are also one of the only councils in scotland who are aggressively pursuing evictions for people who are in housing benefit cut (bedroom tax arrears) although theres been such an outcry about one woman who is disabled being evicted for £248, theyve temporarily backed down and there wont be evictions now until 2014 apparently.

Some areas do have money, they just dont want to spend it on housing, in my area, its been the housing associations over the last 20 or 30 years that have built new homes, not the council.

I have no idea what the council does with the money when people buy a home, but its certainly not on building any new ones.

FatVonD

paulineb wrote: »

My local Labour run council had massive surpluses last year, millions, was reading an article about just how much the housing dept has set aside. They are also one of the only councils in scotland who are aggressively pursuing evictions for people who are in housing benefit cut (bedroom tax arrears) although theres been such an outcry about one woman who is disabled being evicted for £248, theyve temporarily backed down and there wont be evictions now until 2014 apparently.

Some areas do have money, they just dont want to spend it on housing, in my area, its been the housing associations over the last 20 or 30 years that have built new homes, not the council.

I have no idea what the council does with the money when people buy a home, but its certainly not on building any new ones.

I doubt they could even afford to rebuild on a one out one in basis when they are being sold off so cheaply.

jacques_chirac

paulineb wrote: »

A lottery winner? Random billionaire?

The Government maybe? If they can spend millions and billions on war and other items, they could possibly spend some spare change on low cost affordable housing

Not priority though I dont think so I wont hold my breath,

Ah, so the govt are going to put everything else aside and build some houses? I suggest you get your head out of your little bubble of 'entitlement' and come live in the real world for a while.

pukkamum

paulineb wrote: »

I have no idea what the council does with the money when people buy a home, but its certainly not on building any new ones.

Any monies from the buying of council houses goes straight to the government treasury, not local authorities, not back into the council house system.
And people wonder why no government has scrapped right to buy and why Cameron increased the maximum discount.

pukkamum

P.s this is probably why Scotland scrapped it more to do with the money going to the british government than protecting council housing stock.

pukkamum

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Ah, so the govt are going to put everything else aside and build some houses? I suggest you get your head out of your little bubble of 'entitlement' and come live in the real world for a while.

Hmmm what the real world of thousands of people unable to have somewhere to call home, the real world of people staying on benefits purely because there is no way theycould afford exorbitant private rents on minimum wage.
Yes the government need to stop concentrating on war mongering and sort out the housing crisis at home.
Oh but wait, thats nowhere near as important as staying in bed with america!

kafkathecat

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Ah, so the govt are going to put everything else aside and build some houses? I suggest you get your head out of your little bubble of 'entitlement' and come live in the real world for a while.

Well they managed to do it after the war when the country was much poorer than it is now. The real world is what we make it. Imagine if the Victorian mill workers instead of campaigning for better conditions had complained that miners had it easy. Why do people always fall for the tactics of divide and rule?