Parking - Letter Before County Court Claim (LBCCC) - Fight back! Guidance Thread

Computersaysno

waamo wrote: »

You end up in court.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

For most people nothing happens, other than more begging letters from the PPC.

Many PPCs have never done court.

A small number issue court papers and so a small number of people either settle, or go to court and then they win or lose.

Umkomaas

Agree with compsaysno - but you do have to pick your PPCs carefully. Regulars will give an indication as to 'risk'.

waamo

Letter Before County Court. If a letter is given that name it's pretty certain it is Parking Eye who do court.

Umkomaas

waamo wrote: »

Letter Before County Court. If a letter is given that name it's pretty certain it is Parking Eye who do court.

Or CEL, or SIP, or ANPR Ltd (:rotfl:) or Vinci, or VCS/Excel, or (now) Gladstone Solicitors, and now we're on Sols - Trethowans (on behalf of Aintree Hospitals).

As said above, choose wisely.

Coupon-mad

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Umkomaas

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Or UKCPS or PCN (NW) or PCM or Napier or Devere to name a few more litigious PPCs!

Brain meltdown to have forgotten that lot :eek:

My bad - must be slippin'

The_Deep

So, to sum up, if you ignore a letter before action, it will not harm your defence. As a landlord, I am no stranger to the CC, and I think that I would rather talk to the judge than jump through all of those LBA hoops.

The fact is that nearly all of these claims have no foundation, PPCs will turn up at court mob handed and try to bamboozle you with 100 pages of dodgy argument. All you need do is find their Achilles Heel, be it contract, losses, faulty cameras, breach of COP, pre-signed witness statements, whatever, etc., and the balance of probabilities will swing in your favour.

I would very much hope that Judges have now got the measure of these shysters and will bend over backwards to end this abuse of legal process.

I suppose that most people have never attended a CC and the very thought of it terrifies them. I was summoned to court once after a motor accident. My insurance company supplied me with a barrister, (he was useless), the claimant put up another barrister who was even more useless. Mt barrister won. CC is no big deal.

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The_Deep

You make a good case. If people do not turn up, or have not done their homework, then, given the way the law works, they deserve to lose. But it does seem an incredible amount of time and energy to fight off a speculative invoice, especially if you are working all hours to keep a job, or pay the gas bill. Is it any wonder people give in to get them off their back?

What is needed is much more help from Trading Standards but their staff levels have been cut to the bone by local authorities in porder that they may continue to employ the requisite number of Diversity Co-ordinators.

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