PCN on my own land

surfboy1

I would not be surprised if the "warden" wasn't the one who dislodged the permit on your daughters car. Then put his ticket on there. I wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing!

Mallotum_X

Personally id remove the permit and start collecting the "fines".

See how many you can get

spacey2012

It depends how much time the OP has, she can just sling them and get on with living or take them on.
If she took them on, a stupid popla appeal "I dont think they have a contract "
Well is POPLA allow the "fake statement" about the contract existing to be used which is in the standard pack they send to the ppc.
We could have a very interesting case.

So if she does take them on, a bit of clever thinking could pull the whole house of cards down.
A fake statement claiming to have a contract used as evidence when the appellant was the land owner.
What a can of worms that would spill out.

This could set them right up ?
What people think.

Stroma

I would sent a letter before claim and sue them but the important thing here is complaints, if they have no contract they cannot legally give fake tickets. Inform the bpa that they are operating without contract, insist that they are given sanction points for this, I think it's 10 points on that, but this is serious they should be kicked out

aos@britishparking.co.uk

Also the dvla as they should be abiding by the bpa code of practice and the dvla code of conduct

foi@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

Iceweasel

This is a heaven sent opportunity to show these parasites up for what they are.

The cheek of it - getting a ticket parked in a place that actually belongs to you!

Please, please, krryd9 - ask your daughter to make an an example of them for all to see.

I can understand your maybe just wanting your own particular hassle to go away - but it would be wonderful for you to help put a stop to such outrageous behaviour, for everyone's sake.

krryd9

A new developement has transpired. A contract does exist because the person who instigated this called in PTL after a meeting in his garden, he has paid a fee on eveyone's behalf and an amount for a pile of permits. He has collected money from 5 of the 8 residents but has not asked my daughter for money because her husband has just been made redundant. I guess this changes things slightly as she does not want a war with the neighbours. Should she now pursue the 'losses to the landowner' route, or continue with 'no contract'.

PS She was at the meeting and did not raise any objections to employing PTL.

Stroma

It alters nothing, this is her land! No third party can sign a contract to circumvent the fact this is her property. They actually need her permission to even enter her property, not the way around .

aspencer6

Am I missing something here? Surely the company should have been given a list of car reg. numbers that belong to the residents. The permits should be used for visitors and any other cars parked should get the tickets!I thought this company had been employed by the residents it seems to me the company are setting the rules, who is the monkey and who is the organ grinder?

Guys_Dad

krryd9 wrote: »

A new developement has transpired. A contract does exist because the person who instigated this called in PTL after a meeting in his garden, he has paid a fee on eveyone's behalf and an amount for a pile of permits. He has collected money from 5 of the 8 residents but has not asked my daughter for money because her husband has just been made redundant. I guess this changes things slightly as she does not want a war with the neighbours. Should she now pursue the 'losses to the landowner' route, or continue with 'no contract'.

PS She was at the meeting and did not raise any objections to employing PTL.

She needs to see the contract.

There is no "management company" for the PPC to have a contract with.

The advice remains the same - inform PPC that she is not a party to any such contract, has signed nothing and will not be paying anything.

In the absence of an agreement with her personally, the PPC has no authority on her land and they can ticket her till the cows come home and she will pay nothing.

If they don't accept that, send a POPLA code and waste £27.00 for every ticket.

However, as your story unfolds, it seems that, if she was present at a meeting, tacitly agreed (and that is implied by her accepting and using the PPC tickets) she has brought this on her own head. I bet other residents would say that she agreed to go along with it.

It should act as a warning to any householders who think it a good idea to use a PPC. Great to have till they bite you then winge when they do.

daveyjp

I'd sit back and ignore the lot, then hit them all hard with a full harrassment claim. The neighbour would be drawn into it via the Court papers.

The frightening aspect is how easy these parasites can suddenly set up and start sending invoices to all and sundry, causing grief to the 'innocent'. My mum in law lives in a flat with communal parking and this is the sort of stupid action their 'Norris' would arrange without talking to anyone.