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Party wall acoustic insulation?

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Hi all,

My friend has just bought a house that she intends to renovate.

She has discovered that she can hear the neighbours clearly through the party wall..............I mean that she can literally hear everything.........TV, talking, teaspoon banging on cup when brew is being made!.......not good at all!

The property is over 100 years old and built of brick.......she is presuming that the party wall has a cavity, but cannot be sure.

Does anybody know the best way to go about insulating the wall (i.e. the best acoustic insulation and the best method without losing too much space off the room)?

All help appreciated :)
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  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    The property is over 100 years old and built of brick.......she is presuming that the party wall has a cavity, but cannot be sure.

    At that age, it's not very likely. I don't think the dividing wall between properties would be a cavity wall even if the outside walls have one.
  • anotherbaldrick
    anotherbaldrick Posts: 2,335 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2013 at 12:25AM
    consult an acoustic insulation specialist (do a web search) this needs specialist input to be effective.

    one to try :- http://www.soundstop.co.uk/soundproofing_walls.php
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  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    Check the party wall is brick with no boarded over voids and check for air gaps between properties. If she can hear a teaspoon on a cup its either airborne noise or possibly contact noise from worktops connected to the neighbors wall.
  • 27col
    27col Posts: 6,554 Forumite
    It was not usual for houses of that age to have cavity walls, and in any case, it is not normal for much newer houses to have anything other than a 9" solid party wall either.
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Mojisola wrote: »
    At that age, it's not very likely. I don't think the dividing wall between properties would be a cavity wall even if the outside walls have one.

    Bang on, I doubt it will have.

    The only way to fix this id to lose at least 100mm, from the wall, to allow substantial poly ins to be applied.
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  • To be honest to have as much noise transmission from next door it can't even be a 9" thick wall, a one brick thick wall has a lot more acoustic properties than that.
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    To be honest to have as much noise transmission from next door it can't even be a 9" thick wall, a one brick thick wall has a lot more acoustic properties than that.

    I think thats the point we have been trying to make, old terraced properties has single brick walls dividing them from the neighbours, hence my comments about another 6" of insulation being needed
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    edited 25 August 2013 at 10:00PM
    I think thats the point we have been trying to make, old terraced properties has single brick walls dividing them from the neighbours, hence my comments about another 6" of insulation being needed

    We've got single leaf walls separating our downstairs rooms and we can't hear a spoon banging on a cup in the other room. (Amended for clarity - see anotherbaldrick's post)

    It would drive me mad hearing neighbour's noises and realising that they could hear everything I was doing!
  • anotherbaldrick
    anotherbaldrick Posts: 2,335 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2013 at 9:47PM
    A one brick wall is 9" thick ( ie, a brick laid length wise), confuses calling a half brick wall (width of a brick, 4.5 ") a single brick wall .
    Thickness

    Brickwork is said to be one brick thick if it has a total width equal to the length of one of its regular component bricks. Accordingly, a wall of a single leaf is a wall of one half brick thickness;
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  • dyrniboy
    dyrniboy Posts: 64 Forumite
    Hi,

    Dont forget the Party Wall Act which is now in force which requires you to inform the neighbours of any works that you wish to do on the Party Wall giving then 14 days in which to make their views known !
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