4 years no pay rise. what action can employees take?

tir21

If there is no money available for pay rises, then a petition would be useless. They cant pay what they dont have.

but they dont have the money because they dont account for the effect of inflation on wages when they bid for contracts

it makes me laugh because on the one hand they say the bids are set at a level where pay rises are not possible and then inform me they have annual pay reviews.

tir21

colino wrote: »

If your company is tendering for public sector work, just be grateful they are still winning them. I've been involved with some recently that the tender winners are clearly not paying NMW or their figures just do not stand up.

im glad were winning them but from a purely selfish financial perspective i wish we were winning them on quality rather than rock bottom bids

scooby088

OP you say a group action? What I have always come across in any place of work many can talk to the talk, but when push comes to shove they wilt and start to think of themselves. If you have a union take it up with them otherwise any petition will fall on deaf ears, and possibly ear mark you as a trouble maker.

Any

tir21 wrote: »

but they dont have the money because they dont account for the effect of inflation on wages when they bid for contracts

it makes me laugh because on the one hand they say the bids are set at a level where pay rises are not possible and then inform me they have annual pay reviews.

Well, I guess the bids are set at the level to be winnable.
They might as well take the money you want to be paid into play, submitt bid higher then anyone else and then you can all be without a job.

You can do a petition, why not. Whether it will have any effect... They are in absolutely no way bound to take you seriously.

If 90% of staff is unhappy and they all leave for better paying job, then I suppose they will start taking you seriously...

ILW

tir21 wrote: »

im glad were winning them but from a purely selfish financial perspective i wish we were winning them on quality rather than rock bottom bids

It would appear that the client prefers low price. Not much your employer can do about that.

Would you buy from a shop that was more expensive because they paid higher wages to their employees?

tir21

ILW wrote: »

Are 90% of the staff unhappy enough to resign?

not sure. i will have to ask them when i start recruiting them to my cause

If they did could the employer replace them at a similar or lower wage level?

is anyone irreplacable?

Any

tir21 wrote: »

im glad were winning them but from a purely selfish financial perspective i wish we were winning them on quality rather than rock bottom bids

Firstly someone has to be buying based on quality, rather then just rock bottom prices....
It's not just what you wish or the company wishes... it's about the market place and wider economical environment!!

elsien

I work in social care. My council has to save 30 million from the social care budget over the next 3 years while costs are increasing due to an aging population needing more help.
They are generally going for the lowest bids - quality is no longer really coming into it, unless the standard is so poor as to be unsafe.
I'm guessing it's a fairly safe bet the NHS is in a similar position. They are not going to take on contracts that are higher just so staff can get a payrise.

Yes my spending power is getting less as food and energy prices etc keep going up. But I still have a job. If we were working in a sector where business is booming things might be different. But public sector and those that rely on them for work - not a hope.

Takeaway_Addict

Really really do not do anything of your own back!

the only way you may and its may get a pay increase is to join a union (though fees may wipe out your first increase...if you get one!)

Just move and get another job.

McKneff

By all means, campaign for your higher wages, but you'll end up in the mire when 10% of the workforce gets made redundant because there isn't enough money to pay everyone.

I would keep your head down to be honest, you'll get the reputation of a stirrer and this will follow you round in your employment for years. Via references, word of mouth.
If you don't like it, move on.