4 years no pay rise. what action can employees take?

notanewuser

tir21 wrote: »

i dont really feel that asking for a 1% increase in pay is really a pay rise anyway

with inflation at 3% its in effect a pay cut

if you buy exactly the same things this year as you did last year you will have less money at the end of the year

what exactly have we done wrong that should make us so accepting of a pay cut?

Blame those that offered and took 100%+ mortgages and have lived on credit for years.

Blame the spend spend spend labour government and the cut cut cut coalition government now.

I'm not well pleased that the interest on the significant savings DH and I have built up over the years isn't even keeping up with inflation due to sh1tty interest rates.

That's life, I'm afraid. You'll just have to cut your cloth.

Unless you feel so strongly that you'll quit your job so that your salary can be used as a payrise for your co-workers.

tir21

ILW wrote: »

What you have done wrong, is failed to demonstrate why you are worth more. The only way to do that is to get a better offer elsewhere.

the problem with this approach is that it demonstrates the employee to be dishonest or lazy.

if you have worked 10% harder or are 10% more productive in the last year your employer could just ask why that was not the case the previous year, and refuse a pay rise on the basis that you were slacking in the previous year

if you have to improve your performance year on year to get a pay rise it just demonstrates you were not very good at your job or didnt try very hard in all the previous years you worked there

tir21

Unless you feel so strongly that you'll quit your job so that your salary can be used as a payrise for your co-workers

they probably wouldn't notice

notanewuser

tir21 wrote: »

they probably wouldn't notice

that you'd gone?

If that's so why on earth would you think they'd be paying you more if they don't need to?!

notanewuser

tir21 wrote: »

the problem with this approach is that it demonstrates the employee to be dishonest or lazy.

if you have worked 10% harder or are 10% more productive in the last year your employer could just ask why that was not the case the previous year, and refuse a pay rise on the basis that you were slacking in the previous year

if you have to improve your performance year on year to get a pay rise it just demonstrates you were not very good at your job or didnt try very hard in all the previous years you worked there

So you want more money to do exactly the same thing year after year.

Wake up mate. That's not how the world works nowadays.

tir21

notanewuser wrote: »

that you'd gone?

If that's so why on earth would you think they'd be paying you more if they don't need to?!

no, that they wouldn't notice my wages been used to top up theirs

tir21

notanewuser wrote: »

So you want more money to do exactly the same thing year after year.

no, i dont want to get poorer this year for working just as hard as i did last year

wake up mate. that's not how the world's works nowadays

then its a mad world we've made for ourselves and our children

im happy with a pay freeze if i dont need more money to buy exactly the same things this year as i did last year

as ive said previously im not in the type of job that i can increase my productivity. if i could increase my productivity, then i would be slacking now

most people are in jobs where they do what they are paid to do to the best of theur ability. if sych people will be on the same wages in ten years time as they are now, then this will be a very divided society that will not be good for anyone

AP007

tir21 wrote: »

no, i dont want to get poorer this year for working just as hard as i did last year

then find another job quick

notanewuser

tir21 wrote: »

no, i dont want to get poorer this year for working just as hard as i did last year



then its a mad world we've made for ourselves and our children

You only seem concerned with yourself. What about all those working in factories and call centres who got replaced by cheaper foreign alternatives?

You have had an increase in your tax free allowance of 8.5% from 2011-12 and 16.5% to 2012-13, so you should have been seeing an increase in your monthly income over the years. Your employer won't pay any more for you than they have to. If you are indispensable then you have haggling rights. Otherwise you're free to walk and they'll get some other person to do it, probably for even less money.

notanewuser

tir21 wrote: »

no, i dont want to get poorer this year for working just as hard as i did last year



then its a mad world we've made for ourselves and our children

im happy with a pay freeze if i dont need more money to buy exactly the same things this year as i did last year

as ive said previously im not in the type of job that i can increase my productivity. if i could increase my productivity, then i would be slacking now

most people are in jobs where they do what they are paid to do to the best of theur ability. if sych people will be on the same wages in ten years time as they are now, then this will be a very divided society that will not be good for anyone

In what way divided?

That's the nature of a capitalist economy/society. If you want everybody to be treated the same we need the communists running the country.